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In message <1TPosiI41y2FFwZw@cockaigne.demon.co.uk>, Kate Brown 
<elvira@cockaigne.demon.co.uk> writes

>If I keep a 'mailto' link in the source, but simply attach it to an 
>image (as I do on my homepage) rather than spelling it out, can a 
>spambot pick it up from that?

Yes.

>Or can I spell it out, perhaps with extra spaces in it, and ask people 
>to remove the spaces (some won't know what I'm talking about), while 
>keeping it out of the source code?

It may be better to try something like:
http://www.addressmunger.com/
(There are many similar sites).

I don't know how effective this type of method is (perhaps others may 
comment) but it is simple for both web-designer and user.

-- 
Paul Terry

In message <1TPosiI41y2FFwZw@cockaigne.demon.co.uk>, Kate Brown 
<elvira@cockaigne.demon.co.uk> wrote
>If anyone is listening...
>
>I have two sections on my website, one for myself and one for a charity 
>that I help to run.  I want people to be able to contact me by email 
>for both these sections.  I started off with two addresses in plain 
>view and of course they are now getting a lot of spam (though whether 
>this is directly due to the website or because people's addressbooks 
>are getting harvested as well I can't tell).  I'd like to alter them, 
>but don't know how to make them both spamproof and 
>inexperienced-webuser proof.
>
>If I keep a 'mailto' link in the source, but simply attach it to an 
>image (as I do on my homepage) rather than spelling it out, can a 
>spambot pick it up from that?   Or can I spell it out, perhaps with 
>extra spaces in it, and ask people to remove the spaces (some won't 
>know what I'm talking about), while keeping it out of the source code?
>
>Any advice gratefully received.  Website is here:
>www.cockaigne.demon.co.uk
>

I receive spam to an address that is publicised only in the body text of 
one web page and has never been used for sending emails. Indeed I 
receive bounces for email allegedly sent by it! I can only conclude that 
they have been harvested either manually or by some automatic process. A 
search for it on Google does not find it but does find the page.

However, if as it seems your site is at Demon, you could use the 
webform.  Go to here

http://www.kitzbuhel.demon.co.uk/austamps/index.htm#INTOUCH

and look at the source code.

Completed forms would be emailed to webmaster@cockai etc.
-- 
Andy
For Austria & its philately, Lupus, & much else visit
<URL:http://www.kitzbuhel.demon.co.uk/>

In article <B7gNX7IUmz2FFAcZ@main.machine>, dated Tue, 20 Feb 2007, Paul 
Terry <nospam@musonix.demon.co.uk> wrote
>In message <1TPosiI41y2FFwZw@cockaigne.demon.co.uk>, Kate Brown 
><elvira@cockaigne.demon.co.uk> writes
>
>>If I keep a 'mailto' link in the source, but simply attach it to an 
>>image (as I do on my homepage) rather than spelling it out, can a 
>>spambot pick it up from that?
>
>Yes.
>
>>Or can I spell it out, perhaps with extra spaces in it, and ask people 
>>to remove the spaces (some won't know what I'm talking about), while 
>>keeping it out of the source code?
>
>It may be better to try something like:
>http://www.addressmunger.com/
>(There are many similar sites).
>
>I don't know how effective this type of method is (perhaps others may 
>comment) but it is simple for both web-designer and user.
>
It looks well worth trying.   Thank you very much.

-- 
Kate B

PS 'elvira' is spamtrapped - please reply to 'elviraspam' at cockaigne if you want
to reply personally

In article <1TPosiI41y2FFwZw@cockaigne.demon.co.uk>, Kate Brown
<elvira@cockaigne.demon.co.uk> writes
>If anyone is listening...
>
>I have two sections on my website, one for myself and one for a charity 
>that I help to run.  I want people to be able to contact me by email for 
>both these sections.  I started off with two addresses in plain view and 
>of course they are now getting a lot of spam (though whether this is 
>directly due to the website or because people's addressbooks are getting 
>harvested as well I can't tell).  I'd like to alter them, but don't know 
>how to make them both spamproof and inexperienced-webuser proof.
>
>If I keep a 'mailto' link in the source, but simply attach it to an 
>image (as I do on my homepage) rather than spelling it out, can a 
>spambot pick it up from that?   Or can I spell it out, perhaps with 
>extra spaces in it, and ask people to remove the spaces (some won't know 
>what I'm talking about), while keeping it out of the source code?
>
>Any advice gratefully received.  Website is here:
>www.cockaigne.demon.co.uk
>
look for a program called "web email cloaker"  it's free...

it encodes your email into the hex character format which html can
render, so it looks normal but to a spambot it's simply a series of
&ff&fe&10 etc...

I have used on my site and had no spam to the particular addresses used.
I have had spam to other addresses as the domain name though these were
simply a chosen word such as info@ and of course the webmaster@


-- 
wsotw

In demon.homepages.authoring message <yOEW4cAXk02FFwYe@cmsinet.demon.co.
uk>, Tue, 20 Feb 2007 19:16:39, wsotw <wshadow@cmsinet.demon.co.uk>
posted:
>look for a program called "web email cloaker"  it's free...
>
>it encodes your email into the hex character format which html can
>render, so it looks normal but to a spambot it's simply a series of
>&ff&fe&10 etc...

Well, a little like that.  The following javascript, executed in my js-
quick.htm with the plain e-address in X0, does it :

S = F.X0.value
X = ""
for (j=0 ; j<S.length ; j++) X += "&#" + S.charCodeAt(j) + ";"

There is an assumption that the E-address uses only reasonable
characters.

Note that the address is now in your machine /en clair/; so, for
greatest safety, encode various parts of it separately and join by hand.

You can also encode the Mailto: likewise.

It's a good idea to read the newsgroup and its FAQ.  See below.

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