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In article <842931858snx@comproom.demon.co.uk>
           Steve@comproom.demon.co.uk "Steve Nutt" writes:

> In article <842468517snx@trmphrst.demon.co.uk>
>    cppnews@trmphrst.demon.co.uk (Nikki Locke - Cppnews newsreader support)
>  writes:
> >I have recently been having a long conversation with Steve Nutt, who uses
> >cppnews with a screen-reading speech program. He is very enthusiastic
> >about the program, but has pointed out a few drawbacks in the way the
> >screen is updated, which sometimes foxes his speech program.
> 
>   Hello All, I'm here!
Hy Steve and other blind colleagues,
	I use Hal5.204, and up to now - touch wood - I
haven't experienced any problems with reading
and writing in the newsgroups section.
	However, I have difficulty in deleting newsgroups from
my list as it is always the top of the
list that is deleted when I am in the delete mode, i.e., f6.
If I want to delete a group lower down in the list, I 
have to delete all the ones leading down to it.
Muting my reader and synthesizer, then counting and entering
when I 'think' I have reached the one
to be deleted doesn't work - it is 
always the top one that is deleted, then the next and
so on. 
	Adding a group is no problem.  
	As regards the mail service.  No problems
at all here - all works well so simply.
Best wishes to all. 
> >I am now considering putting a lot of effort into cppnews to make it more
> >"speech friendly".
> 
>   I think considering is a little modest, I think you already _have_ put
>   in a lot of effort.  Thank you for that.
> 
> >I now discover that there are at least two blind cppnews users, and I
> >wonder if there are any more out there?
> >
> >If there are, I would like to involve you all in our discussions of the
> >best way to improve cppnews for blind users.
> 
>   Once again, here here!
> 
> >As this is, in theory, a public newsgroup (judging by the number of spams
> >we get in here :-), I would also welcome contributions from any _potential_
> >users as well. If you know someone who isn't a cppnews user, but might
> >want to be if it was more speech friendly, please ask them to join in.
> 
>   I have one or two ideas of other people who may want to join in.  I
>   will ask them first and if anything comes of it, I'll try and get them
>   to join in as well.
> 
>   Regarding our last conversation we had by mail, yes, I believe reading
>   out (or writing to BIOS) all the options then the currently selected
>   item is a good idea, but only once.  I.e., when you move to the next
>   item, just send the current option through BIOS if possible.  Hope
>   this helps.
> 
>   Thanks for a great program.  By the way, I'll try to
>   get my wife Angie involved here too, as she uses CPPNews and is also
>   blind, so she relies on the same speech system as I do.  Also,
>   following your request for blind people to get involved, may I also
>   put in a request for blind people particularly who use different
>   screen readers to the one I use.  I use Vocal-Eyes by GW Micro, so if
>   any blind people out there use HAL, Flipper, JAWS or any screen
>   reader, do come in and hopefully, tell us how well these versions work
>   with these particular speech packages.
> 
>   All the best
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Gerald Locke