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In article <900272975snz@isis.demon.co.uk>
           ian@isis.demon.co.uk "Ian Smith" wrote:

>I've always assumed that Demon based "their" PCElm on the Siebeck and 
>Freiss v3.0 and if so you need to pay for the source. However, if it's 
>based on their earlier version, circa v1.9, the source is still freely 
>available.

Where?  I couldn't find anything that looked like source with a archie 
search.

>S & F lost interest around v1.9 and a chap called Kelvin Hill took over 
>and brought out v2.0 - 2.2. I've never seen 2.2, but the source for 2.1 
>is freely available (at least it was a couple of years ago). I've been 
>told that v2.1 is only minor tweaks away from v1.9.

Well, the Demon version claims to be '111' which I assume is 1.11 
(presumably Demon changes from 1.9).

>Of course, even if it is based on the 1.9 vintage, if Demon won't 
>release their changes you're no further forward unless you just need 
>somewhere to start.

Indeed.  I haven't heard back from the authors at all...

>In passing, what's so good about PCElm ? I started with it, but I don't 
>remember being all that impressed.

It's a darn sight better than View, it doesn't bomb out at 300 messages in 
a mailbox.  What I'd prefer is real elm, but I still haven't managed to get
the configure script to run all through even under Win95 (it complains of
running out of virtual memory, which is ridiculous, it doesn't need 128Mb
to compile even on a DEC Alpha).

BTW, I have modifications to POP3CLI and MAILCLI so that if you have lots
of POP3 mailboxes it doesn't try to kick them all at once.

What happened to the idea of having the Demon POP3 server add a header line
like X-POP3-Mailbox so you could d/l all the messages at once and then sort
them?

Chris C