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Re: Large numbers of duplicate articles

#987
From: Brian {Hamilton Kelly}
Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 00:00
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In article <4nokrk$qe4@panix2.panix.com> tgold@panix.com "Anthony Gold" writes:

> Brian {Hamilton Kelly} (bhk@dsl.co.uk) wrote:
> 
> : Might I suggest that it's NewsBorg that needs fixing: surely it wouldn't
> : be too tricky for it to keep a record of the Message-IDs already
> : proferred to the client in this NEWNEWS command, and to prevent offering
> : the duplicates?
> 
> Unless you have a very small number of newsgroups, your nntp client will
> issue many NEWNEWS commands, each with a separate list of newsgroups.  I
> believe that any newsborg change is unlikely to prevent duplicates and
> would urge Demon to allocate their scarce development resources elsewhere. 

I think you'll find that KA9Q issues a NEWNEWS command with a list of a
dozen or so newsgroups at a time.  It's *within* these downloads that the
trouble appears, when quasi-adjacent groups have the same article.  This
is because of the ring-buffering used by KA9Q between the fetches.  I
think it's already been stated that within the longer time cycle of
multiple NEWNEWS commands, KA9Q will have added the new articles'
Message-IDs to its history file, and won't bother to get the later
duplicates.  The problem never arose until the quite recent past; I
believe it actually post-dates the official introduction of the
distributed servers: it certainly happened after their unofficial launch.

It's not just affecting KA9Q users either, from the impressions I gain.

-- 
Brian {Hamilton Kelly}                                         bhk@dsl.co.uk
                       "A language is a dialect that has an army and a navy"    
                                                          --  Samuel Johnson
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From: Brian {Hamilton Kelly} <bhk@dsl.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Large numbers of duplicate articles
Date: 1996/05/20
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