Is Snews's Newsgroups: line broken?

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4 total messages Started by "Anthony R. Gold" Fri, 07 Nov 1997 00:00

#442

Author: "Anthony R. Gold"
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 00:00

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I find that when following a crossposted article with a line:

Newsgroups: ng1,ng2,ng3

that Snews usually (but not always??) will create an article with:

Newsgroups: ng1,
 ng2,
 ng3

I believe that this is broken as RFC821 (??or something) only allows 
splitting a header line at permitted white spaces, and the 
Newsgroups: line has no permitted white spaces except for the one 
that is required after the ":".

Luckily the Demon mail2news gateway appears to be lax about this 
requirement. However other gateways are stricter and they will first 
reconstruct the mail item's line to become:

Newsgroups: ng1, ng2, ng3

And then the news server will reject the article for bad format.

The thing I can't put my finger on is why, sometimes, the following 
article is formatted "correctly".  Today I played for a while and I 
couldn't make any unbroken followups, but I'm sure I've made some in 
the past and I see some that were posted by other using Snews.

Regards,
-- 
   Tony - G3SKR / W2TG                   email: tgold@panix.com

Re: Is Snews's Newsgroups: line broken?

#443

Author: Raj Rijhwani
Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 00:00

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In article <878923529snz@microvest.demon.co.uk>
           tgold@panix.com "Anthony R. Gold" writes:

> I find that when following a crossposted article with a line:
> 
> Newsgroups: ng1,ng2,ng3
> 
> that Snews usually (but not always??) will create an article with:
> 
> Newsgroups: ng1,
>  ng2,
>  ng3
> 
> I believe that this is broken as RFC821 (??or something) only allows 
> splitting a header line at permitted white spaces, and the 
> Newsgroups: line has no permitted white spaces except for the one 
> that is required after the ":".

You may be right about the RFC - I don't have it to hand - but 
I've never known a whitespace after the comma to be a problem.

Indeed it's the way I usually write such lists.  I guess I should 
check and make sure.

> Luckily the Demon mail2news gateway appears to be lax about this 
> requirement. However other gateways are stricter and they will first 
> reconstruct the mail item's line to become:

> Newsgroups: ng1, ng2, ng3

> And then the news server will reject the article for bad format.

Hmm.  Odd.
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Re: Is Snews's Newsgroups: line broken?

#444

Author: "Anthony R. Gold"
Date: Sat, 08 Nov 1997 00:00

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In article <878907794snz@courtfld.demon.co.uk>
           raj@courtfld.demon.co.uk "Raj Rijhwani" writes:

> You may be right about the RFC - I don't have it to hand - but 
> I've never known a whitespace after the comma to be a problem.

I'm pretty sure that doing it on a single line and then posting with 
NNTP will give a problem.

One present puzzle is that your followup that I'm quoting has no line 
break. But when I try composing a reply to either my post or your I 
get the broken header line.  Yet apparently we're using the same 
software.  This is weird.  Could it be editor sensitive?  I'm using 
TED.

Regards,
-- 
   Tony - G3SKR / W2TG                   email: tgold@panix.com

Re: Is Snews's Newsgroups: line broken?

#445

Author: Richard Clayton
Date: Sat, 08 Nov 1997 00:00

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In article <878907794snz@courtfld.demon.co.uk>, Raj Rijhwani
<raj@courtfld.demon.co.uk> writes
>In article <878923529snz@microvest.demon.co.uk>
>           tgold@panix.com "Anthony R. Gold" writes:
>
>> I find that when following a crossposted article with a line:
>> 
>> Newsgroups: ng1,ng2,ng3
>> 
>> that Snews usually (but not always??) will create an article with:
>> 
>> Newsgroups: ng1,
>>  ng2,
>>  ng3
>> 
>> I believe that this is broken as RFC821 (??or something) only allows 
>> splitting a header line at permitted white spaces, and the 
>> Newsgroups: line has no permitted white spaces except for the one 
>> that is required after the ":".
>
>You may be right about the RFC

He is - except in so far as it is 1036 (and 822 underpinning it).

Whitespace is unacceptable in "Newsgroups:"

> - I don't have it to hand - but 
>I've never known a whitespace after the comma to be a problem.

your articles will not get far like that - many news systems will reject
them as non-conformant :(

I remember this issue coming up before, but a long time ago and I cannot
recall the Snews fix, sorry.

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