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11 total messages Started by Warren Ward Fri, 25 Jul 1997 00:00
Dial Up Networking connection to Demon - an easier way without a script!
#493
Author: Warren Ward
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 00:00
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I like to make connection to Demon using Windows 95 Dial Up Networking
so that I can use any browser or other program requiring a connection.
Setting up DUN is a little bit laborious so I have been looking for a
simpler way.
Microsoft have available on their web site http://www.microsoft.com an
upgrade provided for the purpose of adding ISDN connection facility to
DUN. This file - msisdn11.exe -greatly improves DUN, even if you do not
have ISDN. It allows quicker connection, faster speeds by my reckoning,
gives more information about the connection progress, and no dial up
script or terminal window is required to connect to Demon. If you are
already using a script just right mouse click on the Demon icon in DUN
(in My computer), select Properties, then Scripting and delete the name
of the script file leaving the space blank.
Also using the isdn file you get a cute pair of winking computers in the
corner of the screen instead of the blinking modem.
It is only necessary to put the file in any temporary directory on your
hard drive and double click it and it installs itself. As well as
downloading from Microsoft, the file msisdn11.exe is also available from
ftp://ftp.trentu.ca/Windows95/UPDATES/msisdn11.exe

I would be interested in any feedback on this. It does not seem to be
well known.

Happy connecting,
Warren Ward, http://www.designpages.com
warren@artpages.demon.co.uk
Re: Dial Up Networking connection to Demon - an easier way without a script!
#494
Author: Hairy One Kenobi
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 00:00
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On Fri, 25 Jul 1997 05:23:18 +0100, Warren Ward
<warren@artpages.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>Also using the isdn file you get a cute pair of winking computers in the
>corner of the screen instead of the blinking modem.

This is the version of DUN included in OSR2.1. It has already been
replaced :-) 

After 6 attempts, you'd have thought that they would have got it
right..

Incidentally, the "winking computers" give you less information than
before, as they only appear *after* a connection has been made. You
have to use a telephone handset or guesswork to see if teh othr
modem's died during connection ..


Hairy@advsystems.demon.co.uk

Note: the opinions expressed in this opinion do not necessarily
represent the opinions of the opinionated person expressing the
opinion. Or something.
Re: Dial Up Networking connection to Demon - an easier way without a script!
#495
Author: Dave Mills
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 00:00
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Loaded that but it say's it is for WN95 on the install menu. With that
URL I thought it was for NT. Does it work with NT 4.

>An excellent suggestion, but DUN 1.2 is now available direct from Microsoft
>at:
>
>http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/info/exes/msdun12.exe

--
Dave Mills     MCSE                Home: Davemills@ravesw.demon.co.uk
Reading, Berks                 
England                        
Re: Dial Up Networking connection to Demon - an easier way without a script!
#497
Author: Alan English
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 00:00
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On Sat, 26 Jul 1997 11:58:49 GMT, pl.see@signature(Mitch) wrote:

>1) What does it do that the ISDN version installed by running
>msisdn11.exe doesn't?

It is a later version, probably with some unadvertised bug fixes.

>2) Will I screw my system up by installing over the ISDN?

No, I have just done exactly that.

Alan

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Windows 95 Utilites      http://www.netmail.demon.co.uk/utilities.htm
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Re: Dial Up Networking connection to Demon - an easier way without a script!
#366
Author: Tom Bird
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 00:00
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Hairy One Kenobi <hairy@advsystems.demon.co.uk> wrote in article
<33d9c577.2722542@news.demon.co.uk>...
> On Fri, 25 Jul 1997 05:23:18 +0100, Warren Ward
> <warren@artpages.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >Also using the isdn file you get a cute pair of winking computers in the
> >corner of the screen instead of the blinking modem.
> 
> This is the version of DUN included in OSR2.1. It has already been
> replaced :-) 
> 
> After 6 attempts, you'd have thought that they would have got it
> right..
> 
> Incidentally, the "winking computers" give you less information than
> before, as they only appear *after* a connection has been made. You
> have to use a telephone handset or guesswork to see if teh othr
> modem's died during connection ..
> 

Very strange...  My modem's got a speaker and the Rockwell chipset which
doesn't cut the speaker until a second before the CD light comes on.

> Hairy@advsystems.demon.co.uk
> 
> Note: the opinions expressed in this opinion do not necessarily
> represent the opinions of the opinionated person expressing the
> opinion. Or something.
> 

Talk about cross-posting.


-- 
Tom Bird

Don't feel annoyed when the internet doesn't work, it's a miracle that it
works at all.

I do not flash my email address around - then I can flame without being
mailbombed! :-)

sales@msn.com - that's for restricting access to the Startrek.com site to
MSN members.
Re: Dial Up Networking connection to Demon - an easier way without a script!
#368
Author: Hairy One Kenobi
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 00:00
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On Fri, 01 Aug 1997 18:35:13 GMT, "Tom Bird" <tombird@internet> wrote:
>Hairy One Kenobi <hairy@advsystems.demon.co.uk> wrote in article
><33d9c577.2722542@news.demon.co.uk>...
>> On Fri, 25 Jul 1997 05:23:18 +0100, Warren Ward
>> <warren@artpages.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> >Also using the isdn file you get a cute pair of winking computers in the
>> >corner of the screen instead of the blinking modem.
<snip>
>Very strange...  My modem's got a speaker and the Rockwell chipset which
>doesn't cut the speaker until a second before the CD light comes on.

Not sure about the ref to a CD light, but on my version (OSR 2.1), the
little pair of computers in the system tray don't actually appear
until the "Logging on to network" window scoots off of the screen. In
W95 retail, the modem object appears immediately. I have been left
several times with a dying connection on negotiation, with no
information about what is going on. FYI, it's a standard IBM OEM fit
AT&T 33k6 modem, with a Rockwell chipset. And that's quite enough TLAs
for now!


Hairy@advsystems.demon.co.uk

Note: the opinions expressed in this opinion do not necessarily
represent the opinions of the opinionated person expressing the
opinion. Or something.
Re: Dial Up Networking connection to Demon - an easier way without a script!
#372
Author: Gary Jones
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 00:00
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On Mon, 28 Jul 1997 09:43:47 GMT, Alan English
(jul97d@netmail.demon.co.uk (Alan English)) wrote:

>On Sat, 26 Jul 1997 11:58:49 GMT, pl.see@signature(Mitch) wrote:
>
>>1) What does it do that the ISDN version installed by running
>>msisdn11.exe doesn't?
>
>It is a later version, probably with some unadvertised bug fixes.
And software development being what it is, unadvertised bugs too
*sigh*
Re: Dial Up Networking connection to Demon - an easier way without a script!
#373
Author: Tom Bird
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 00:00
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Hairy One Kenobi <hairy@advsystems.demon.co.uk> wrote in article
<33e3ba28.451793@news.demon.co.uk>...
> On Fri, 01 Aug 1997 18:35:13 GMT, "Tom Bird" <tombird@internet> wrote:
> >Hairy One Kenobi <hairy@advsystems.demon.co.uk> wrote in article
> ><33d9c577.2722542@news.demon.co.uk>...
> >> On Fri, 25 Jul 1997 05:23:18 +0100, Warren Ward
> >> <warren@artpages.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >> >Also using the isdn file you get a cute pair of winking computers in
the
> >> >corner of the screen instead of the blinking modem.
> <snip>
> >Very strange...  My modem's got a speaker and the Rockwell chipset which
> >doesn't cut the speaker until a second before the CD light comes on.
> 
> Not sure about the ref to a CD light, but on my version (OSR 2.1), the

Stands for Carrier Detect external modems only.  I've also got OSR 2.1 and
it saved about half my hard drive with FAT32 but I preferred the flashing
modem (it responded better and you got a better picture when you double
click it).

> little pair of computers in the system tray don't actually appear
> until the "Logging on to network" window scoots off of the screen. In
> W95 retail, the modem object appears immediately. I have been left
> several times with a dying connection on negotiation, with no
> information about what is going on. FYI, it's a standard IBM OEM fit
> AT&T 33k6 modem, with a Rockwell chipset. And that's quite enough TLAs
> for now!

Bet it takes ages to get rid of the "logging on" box?
-- 
Tom Bird
Re: Dial Up Networking connection to Demon - an easier way without a script!
#376
Author: Dean Gatley
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 00:00
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In article <33e3ba28.451793@news.demon.co.uk>, Hairy One Kenobi
<hairy@advsystems.demon.co.uk> writes
>On Fri, 01 Aug 1997 18:35:13 GMT, "Tom Bird" <tombird@internet> wrote:
>>Hairy One Kenobi <hairy@advsystems.demon.co.uk> wrote in article
>> I have been left
>several times with a dying connection on negotiation, with no
>information about what is going on. FYI, it's a standard IBM OEM fit
>AT&T 33k6 modem, with a Rockwell chipset. And that's quite enough TLAs
>for now!
>
>
>Hairy@advsystems.demon.co.uk
>

Hello john

Try net.magic..it will give you loads of info about  your connection status,
great for fault diagnosis..see http://www.vitalsigns.com/

hope this helps..
-- 
<Deano>
As someone once said " youre born ... life's a s**t... then you die"
Cant think why i still talk to this guy :>)
Re: Dial Up Networking connection to Demon - an easier way without a script!
#1430
Author: James R Grinter
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 00:00
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Dean Gatley <deano@mechwarrior.demon.co.uk> writes:
> Try net.magic..it will give you loads of info about  your connection status,
> great for fault diagnosis..see http://www.vitalsigns.com/

really? I mean, it doesn't actually seem to diagnose anything
correctly.

Which is not really surprising as you can't do that on anything but
the most simple network without some underlying knowledge of the
network topology and monitoring at multiple points.

In short, forget Net.Medic - it's useless.

[followups set to demon.ip.support.win95, as it's only available for
that platform.]

James.
Re: Dial Up Networking connection to Demon - an easier way without a script!
#401
Author: Yank yank
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 00:00
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"Nick Alaway" <nick@^vspl.demon.co.uk> wrote:


>I have never, however had any reason to believe that speed is improved by
>it though...

>Anyone else have any firm beliefs about a speed increase?

>Nick 


	YES I DID, REDUCED PING ON QUAKE

ps You can use TCP/IP without using client for microsoft networks,
this speeds things up as well

panero@grim.demon.co.uk
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