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Angus Manwaring wrote:
> Hi guys,
> 
> Do any of you have any idea about how far a 1992 PC motherboard could be
> expanded?

Depends how powerful the explosives you attach to it are.

> Somebody just referred to the Amiga as being frozen in time, and while I
> understand his point, I started wondering if a 1992 PC could be expnaded in
> the same way a 1200 could. I suspect it probably could, but I'd love to be
> proved wrong.  :)

Honestly, I doubt it, but that's a result of proper advances in the OS 
and base technology, and the fact that I can still run DOS 6 on a P4, 
because each processor upgrade has been backwards compatible, wheras the 
Amiga's line died with the 060

> and "Hi all" by the way.

Hello :)

Paul

On 02-Mar-06 01:09:07, Paul Copsey said
>Angus Manwaring wrote:
>> Hi guys,


PAUL'S BACK!!!!!!    :)


>>
>> Do any of you have any idea about how far a 1992 PC motherboard could be
>> expanded?

>Depends how powerful the explosives you attach to it are.


Same old Paul.  :)

>> Somebody just referred to the Amiga as being frozen in time, and while I
>> understand his point, I started wondering if a 1992 PC could be expnaded in
>> the same way a 1200 could. I suspect it probably could, but I'd love to be
>> proved wrong.  :)

>Honestly, I doubt it, but that's a result of proper advances in the OS
>and base technology, and the fact that I can still run DOS 6 on a P4,
>because each processor upgrade has been backwards compatible, wheras the
>Amiga's line died with the 060


I am not quite following you my friend. :)

What I mean is how many cpu generations could you skip forwards with a '92
pc motherboard, would it do pci network cards/adsl and pci graphics cards,
like voodoo3, run a dvd/cd-rw, and erm.... a wheel mouse and the rest?



                  All the best,
                        Angus Manwaring.       (for e-mail remove ANTISPEM)

I need your memories for the Amiga Games Database: A collection of Amiga
Game reviews by Amiga players http://www.angusm.demon.co.uk/AGDB/AGDB.html

Angus Manwaring wrote:
> On 02-Mar-06 01:09:07, Paul Copsey said
>> Angus Manwaring wrote:
>>> Hi guys,
> 
> PAUL'S BACK!!!!!!    :)
> 

Never actually went anywhere, but never mind :)

>>> Do any of you have any idea about how far a 1992 PC motherboard could be
>>> expanded?
> 
>> Depends how powerful the explosives you attach to it are.

> Same old Paul.  :)

I've only recently developed a love for high explosives. A better answer 
might have included baking powder or the injection of gas, but both may 
prove a little tricky

>>> Somebody just referred to the Amiga as being frozen in time, and while I
>>> understand his point, I started wondering if a 1992 PC could be expnaded in
>>> the same way a 1200 could. I suspect it probably could, but I'd love to be
>>> proved wrong.  :)
> 
>> Honestly, I doubt it, but that's a result of proper advances in the OS
>> and base technology, and the fact that I can still run DOS 6 on a P4,
>> because each processor upgrade has been backwards compatible, wheras the
>> Amiga's line died with the 060
> 
> I am not quite following you my friend. :)

Well, you can't expand a PC of that era to reasonably current spec 
because there's no need, the base unit has envolped most of the 
advances, which the Amiga would've done, had it survived. So expansions 
to add the simple things are either expensive, or simply non-existent.

> What I mean is how many cpu generations could you skip forwards with a '92
> pc motherboard, would it do pci network cards/adsl and pci graphics cards,
> like voodoo3, run a dvd/cd-rw, and erm.... a wheel mouse and the rest?

None really, a 92 motherboard would be a 486 at best, so assuming you 
could get a processor, 486/66 is the best you'd get (I think). I 
honestly have no idea if 486 mobos had PCI, but I can tell you for 
certain even some early pentiums can't handle 2Mb ADSL over a network 
card running linux, so a 486 would be lost. Running a cd-rw/dvd would be 
possible, but writing at the lowest speed, and no way would you view a 
dvd. As for wheel mouse, I doubt there'd be a driver for Win3.1 (the 
only realistic OS you could put on there.

You've intrigued me, what the hell do you want to know this for? :)

Paul

On 05-Mar-06 10:37:28, Paul Copsey said
>Angus Manwaring wrote:
>> On 02-Mar-06 01:09:07, Paul Copsey said
>>> Angus Manwaring wrote:
>>>> Hi guys,
>>
>> PAUL'S BACK!!!!!!    :)
>>

>Never actually went anywhere, but never mind :)

Yeah, I know, you have always been here.

>>
>> I am not quite following you my friend. :)

>Well, you can't expand a PC of that era to reasonably current spec
>because there's no need,

Now even I know that only makes sense if you are assuming people are
rational.

>the base unit has envolped most of the
>advances, which the Amiga would've done, had it survived. So expansions
>to add the simple things are either expensive, or simply non-existent.

>> What I mean is how many cpu generations could you skip forwards with a '92
>> pc motherboard, would it do pci network cards/adsl and pci graphics cards,
>> like voodoo3, run a dvd/cd-rw, and erm.... a wheel mouse and the rest?

>None really, a 92 motherboard would be a 486 at best, so assuming you
>could get a processor, 486/66 is the best you'd get (I think). I
>honestly have no idea if 486 mobos had PCI, but I can tell you for
>certain even some early pentiums can't handle 2Mb ADSL over a network
>card running linux, so a 486 would be lost. Running a cd-rw/dvd would be
>possible, but writing at the lowest speed, and no way would you view a
>dvd. As for wheel mouse, I doubt there'd be a driver for Win3.1 (the
>only realistic OS you could put on there.

Okay thanks, thata's interesting stuff.... but what's wrong with writing
at the lowest speed??!!! Works for me!  :)

>You've intrigued me, what the hell do you want to know this for? :)

Well, its all very childish really, but somebody was telling me how the
Amiga 1200 was frozen in time from 1992, and while I grudgingly accepted
his point had some validity, I began to think that my 1200 motherboard has
actually continued to be expanded till a couple of weeks back actually. I
can read DVD data disks which I couldn't before. Then I wondered if a pc
mobo from that era would have kept up.

All silly stuff, but what the heck.  :)





                  All the best,
                        Angus Manwaring.       (for e-mail remove ANTISPEM)

I need your memories for the Amiga Games Database: A collection of Amiga
Game reviews by Amiga players http://www.angusm.demon.co.uk/AGDB/AGDB.html