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On 10-Sep-03 13:58:55, Jamie said
><tumbleweed>


What's the connection?

                                          ;-|
                  All the best,
                        Angus Manwaring.       (for e-mail remove ANTISPEM)

I need your memories for the Amiga Games Database: A collection of Amiga
Game reviews by Amiga players http://www.angusm.demon.co.uk/AGDB/AGDB.html

In article <377.383T1050T13414469angus@angusm_ANTISPEM_.demon.co.uk>,
Angus Manwaring <angus@angusm_ANTISPEM_.demon.co.uk> writes
>On 10-Sep-03 13:58:55, Jamie said
>><tumbleweed>
>
>
>What's the connection?

Just resubscribed <mumble> years on to see if disa had evolved into
a pleasantly parochial backwater and was a bit downhearted to see it
entirely uninhabited. Just thought I'd check to see if there were any
silent subscribers left.

-- 
Jamie

In article <KqD7BIAfREY$Ewnu@hornbeam.demon.co.uk>, Jamie wrote:
> entirely uninhabited. Just thought I'd check to see if there were any
> silent subscribers left.

We have always been here.

Paul

On 11-Sep-03 17:31:25, Paul said
>In article <KqD7BIAfREY$Ewnu@hornbeam.demon.co.uk>, Jamie wrote:
>> entirely uninhabited. Just thought I'd check to see if there were any
>> silent subscribers left.

>We have always been here.

Yeah, the sand dunes have formed, it is too late for the tumbleweeds to
vote.


Anybody thinking about an AmigaOne?


                  All the best,
                        Angus Manwaring.       (for e-mail remove ANTISPEM)

I need your memories for the Amiga Games Database: A collection of Amiga
Game reviews by Amiga players http://www.angusm.demon.co.uk/AGDB/AGDB.html

Angus Manwaring wrote:
> Yeah, the sand dunes have formed, it is too late for the tumbleweeds to
> vote.

Yes

> Anybody thinking about an AmigaOne?

I made my thoughts clear on that a long time ago, the old girl should
have been laid to rest with dignity at the end of the E-scum saga.

Sat here now, typing this on a WinXP laptop, I really struggle to find
anything to hate about Windows now, bar M$ themselves.

And the most telling admission, I think it's just about coming up for 12
months since I last started my Amiga.

Paul

In article <525.384T1288T11573346neil@digimed.co.uk>, Neil Bothwick
<neil@digimed.co.uk> writes
>Jamie said, 
>
>> Just resubscribed <mumble> years on to see if disa had evolved into
>> a pleasantly parochial backwater and was a bit downhearted to see it
>> entirely uninhabited. Just thought I'd check to see if there were any
>> silent subscribers left.
>
>There are, but fewer than there were because some have broken their vow
>of silence to respond to your posts :)

And some are still posting using their Amiga's too! Impressive.
Assuming it's not via emulation.

-- 
Jamie

In article <bjqbhc$eaq$1$830fa795@news.demon.co.uk>, Paul
<paulc@hectortd.demon.co.uk> writes
>In article <KqD7BIAfREY$Ewnu@hornbeam.demon.co.uk>, Jamie wrote:
>> entirely uninhabited. Just thought I'd check to see if there were any
>> silent subscribers left.
>
>We have always been here.

House of the Rising Sun.

-- 
Jamie

In article <604.384T481T11433784angus@angusm_ANTISPEM_.demon.co.uk>,
Angus Manwaring <angus@angusm_ANTISPEM_.demon.co.uk> writes
>On 11-Sep-03 17:31:25, Paul said
>>In article <KqD7BIAfREY$Ewnu@hornbeam.demon.co.uk>, Jamie wrote:
>>> entirely uninhabited. Just thought I'd check to see if there were any
>>> silent subscribers left.
>
>>We have always been here.
>
>Yeah, the sand dunes have formed, it is too late for the tumbleweeds to
>vote.

I don't think they're eligible, what with having no fixed address. 

>Anybody thinking about an AmigaOne?

What's that then? You don't have to answer, I can always google.

-- 
Jamie

In article <HZpzUXAryXY$Ew0b@stokes.nildram.co.uk>, Philip Stokes
<news@nospam.invalid> writes
>X-No-Archive: Yes
>
>Hello Neil Bothwick, in message 
><525.384T1288T11573346neil@digimed.co.uk> on Thu, 11 Sep 2003 you wrote:
>>
>>There are, but fewer than there were because some have broken their vow
>>of silence to respond to your posts :)
>
>Sssshhhh. Some of us are trying to sleep in here...

Sorry, didn't mean to disturb anyone. 

Odd to read some names that I haven't read for years.

-- 
Jamie

In article <823.384T650T11413805angus@angusm_ANTISPEM_.demon.co.uk>,
Angus Manwaring <angus@angusm_ANTISPEM_.demon.co.uk> writes
>On 11-Sep-03 09:46:07, Jamie said
>>In article <377.383T1050T13414469angus@angusm_ANTISPEM_.demon.co.uk>,
>>Angus Manwaring <angus@angusm_ANTISPEM_.demon.co.uk> writes
>>>On 10-Sep-03 13:58:55, Jamie said
>>>><tumbleweed>
>>>
>>>
>>>What's the connection?
>
>>Just resubscribed <mumble> years on to see if disa had evolved into
>>a pleasantly parochial backwater and was a bit downhearted to see it
>>entirely uninhabited. Just thought I'd check to see if there were any
>>silent subscribers left.
>
>Fair enough Jamie and welcome back.

Hello again, I recognise the name (and others) but I doubt I was
prodigious enough to have left any lasting trace.

>Sorry for the Elton John reference.   :)

That's quite alright, I've no idea what you're on about.

-- 
Jamie

In article <bjs7tm$2s1$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk>, Paul
<paulc@hectortd.demon.co.uk> writes

>And the most telling admission, I think it's just about coming up for 12
>months since I last started my Amiga.

For me it was about two weeks ago. I went through a load of old tunettes
I created in MIDI in Octamed years ago, and thought I might have a go
a creating some more. I've never really put the time and effort in with
Cubase and Octamed is much simpler to knock things up on.

-- 
Jamie

In article <N.20030914.jfwf@sisyphus.demon.co.uk>, Dave Sparks wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 10:41:59 +0000 (UTC), Paul <paulc@hectortd.demon.co.uk> said:
>> And the most telling admission, I think it's just about coming up for 12
>> months since I last started my Amiga.
> 
> And I'm in the last stages of transferring my web site maintenance to a
> Linux box.  The 11 (or is it 12) year old B2000 is on its last legs - it

My 1200 is nearly 10 years old, must find out it's anniversary so I can give
it a flick of power on its birthday. I've actually got a spare 1200
downstairs, bought cheap when I thought I was still going to be using it, so
I'd have a replacement if the thing died.

> still has the original battery, now many years past its replace-by date,
> and the network card only works when the machine is at exactly the right
> temperature.

I think that was pretty much what dulled my enthusiasm, for some reason my
HD won't spin up until about 5 mins have passed, which rather sidelined it.

> There may still be people fighting battles for the Amiga, but the war
> ended long ago.

And if rumour is true, AInc have gone the way of the rest, after having
spent some months in a bedroom.

Paul

Angus Manwaring wrote:
> Briefly....
[snip A1 history lesson]

The golden question is though, as pretty much the only person here
likely to buy one (even my love for toys would be pushed to shell out
more than I did to build a dual athlon box for another 'Amiga'), can
you honestly see anyone other than the Amiga diehards buying one of
these?

Paul

In article <893.386T2729T12156164angus@angusm_ANTISPEM_.demon.co.uk>,
Angus Manwaring <angus@angusm_ANTISPEM_.demon.co.uk> writes
>On 13-Sep-03 10:34:35, Jamie said

>>And some are still posting using their Amiga's too! Impressive.
>>Assuming it's not via emulation.
>
>You jest, sir!   :)

Well done! I still only had my A4000 until about 1999 when I finally
gave in and bought a PC - because I couldn't get Settlers 3 for the
Amiga! 

IE was a bonus.

I think my original software set-up won't work with Demon any more.

>Game reviews by Amiga players http://www.angusm.demon.co.uk/AGDB/AGDB.html

Must have a look...

Thinking of Amiga games, and my own sporadic efforts in 68k, Amos, and
the Blitz... is there anything available for the PC akin to Blitz Basic?

I haven't really done any research, but I'd like to be able to write
little nonsense 'games' again.

-- 
Jamie

In article <831.386T2494T13854752neil@digimed.co.uk>, Neil Bothwick
<neil@digimed.co.uk> writes
>Jamie said, 
>
>> In article <525.384T1288T11573346neil@digimed.co.uk>, Neil Bothwick
>> <neil@digimed.co.uk> writes
>
>>>There are, but fewer than there were because some have broken their vow
>>>of silence to respond to your posts :)
>
>> And some are still posting using their Amiga's too! Impressive.
>> Assuming it's not via emulation.
>
>My A4000 died about a year ago. I'm now using a PC running Amithlon
>with no other OS installed. To all intents and purposes, it's an Amiga,
>albeit a rather fast one :)

I'm clearly several years out of date as far as Miggy stuff goes. I seem
to remember downloading an emulator a couple of years back but didn't
get anywhere with it.

-- 
Jamie

In article <2093.386T1028T12154143angus@angusm_ANTISPEM_.demon.co.uk>,
Angus Manwaring <angus@angusm_ANTISPEM_.demon.co.uk> writes
>On 13-Sep-03 10:37:14, Jamie said
>>In article <604.384T481T11433784angus@angusm_ANTISPEM_.demon.co.uk>,
>>Angus Manwaring <angus@angusm_ANTISPEM_.demon.co.uk> writes

>>>Anybody thinking about an AmigaOne?
>
>>What's that then? You don't have to answer, I can always google.
>
>Briefly....

[snip interesting stuff]

I remember the PPC stuff being optimistically discussed some years back.

I'm impressed that people are still working with the Amiga legacy, I
hope that it's under the understanding that's it's a labour of love
though.

My A4000 still goes, and makes me shudder when I think of how much I
spent on it - so I try not to. But my Microvitec has had an intermittent
fault for many years: the red gun only joins in when it feels like it.

-- 
Jamie

In article <675.386T2381T12185968angus@angusm_ANTISPEM_.demon.co.uk>,
Angus Manwaring <angus@angusm_ANTISPEM_.demon.co.uk> writes
>On 13-Sep-03 10:35:03, Jamie said

>>House of the Rising Sun.
>
>Well..... Kosh might have been seen as a kind of Animal.

Not a name I recognise. I wonder if Tez or Dom do any nostalgic
lurking.

-- 
Jamie

Angus Manwaring wrote:
> On 18-Sep-03 12:15:11, Jamie said
>>I think my original software set-up won't work with Demon any more.
> 
> Not much of a probbie to put that right I would think.

Wahey! Go, go SupportAngus[tm] ;-)

I'd struggle like hell now to try and fix that without being sat by it.
ISTR wimping out and using Maim-me last time I had my Amiga running the
modem direct ;-)

>>Thinking of Amiga games, and my own sporadic efforts in 68k, Amos, and
>>the Blitz... is there anything available for the PC akin to Blitz Basic?
> 
> Ask somebody who cares!!!!!   ;)

[Jaws theme as the PC users sweep in ;-)]

I /think/ you can get Blitz for the PC, ISTR it being on a cover coffee
disc a while back. That's something I really miss, coverdisks with stuff
on that you want. I suppose cheaper faster internet access has made them
a little less interesting, but some of the programs you get free on some
PC coverdisks are shockingly uninteresting to most.

> I'm an Amiga user, me.

Thank you Angus, welcome to Amigas Anonymous ;-)

Paul

In article <XEfcKbAkIaa$Ew26@hornbeam.demon.co.uk>, Jamie wrote:
> In article <831.386T2494T13854752neil@digimed.co.uk>, Neil Bothwick
>>My A4000 died about a year ago. I'm now using a PC running Amithlon
>>with no other OS installed. To all intents and purposes, it's an Amiga,
>>albeit a rather fast one :)
> 
> I'm clearly several years out of date as far as Miggy stuff goes. I seem
> to remember downloading an emulator a couple of years back but didn't
> get anywhere with it.

I guess you had UAE, which is a pig to set up from scratch, best bet is
to find a site that has saved config files for what you are trying to
run. As a guide, my old K6-2 300 laptop used to play a decent game of
Settlers, easily comparable to my 030-50, and it did a decent job of UFO.
Didn't play much else, but it does really hammer the processor temp up.

Amithlon is (IIRC) commercial, hence I don't know a great deal about it
either ;-) But ISTR some controversy/arguments over it a while back.
Out of interest Neil, what PC hardware is it running on, and have you
ever benchmarked it against a real Amiga?

Paul

In article <fUce+nApPaa$EwWk@hornbeam.demon.co.uk>, Jamie wrote:
> spent on it - so I try not to. But my Microvitec has had an intermittent
> fault for many years: the red gun only joins in when it feels like it.

Sure that's not just the cable?

Mine has had the power switch linked out for 7 years, and now does an
ace searing white spot like the Death Star exploding in the Star Wars
arcade game when you switch it off ;-)

Paul

In article <AkjZC8AWWaa$Ew3L@hornbeam.demon.co.uk>, Jamie wrote:
> In article <675.386T2381T12185968angus@angusm_ANTISPEM_.demon.co.uk>,
> Angus Manwaring <angus@angusm_ANTISPEM_.demon.co.uk> writes
>>Well..... Kosh might have been seen as a kind of Animal.
> 
> Not a name I recognise.

Understanding is a three-edged sword.

> I wonder if Tez or Dom do any nostalgic lurking.

Doesn't look like it so far.

Paul

In article <1260.391T1666T11305545angus@angusm_ANTISPEM_.demon.co.uk>,
Angus Manwaring <angus@angusm_ANTISPEM_.demon.co.uk> writes
>On 18-Sep-03 12:15:11, Jamie said
>>In article <893.386T2729T12156164angus@angusm_ANTISPEM_.demon.co.uk>,
>>Angus Manwaring <angus@angusm_ANTISPEM_.demon.co.uk> writes
>>>On 13-Sep-03 10:34:35, Jamie said
>
>>>>And some are still posting using their Amiga's too! Impressive.
>>>>Assuming it's not via emulation.
>>>
>>>You jest, sir!   :)
>
>>Well done! I still only had my A4000 until about 1999 when I finally
>>gave in and bought a PC - because I couldn't get Settlers 3 for the
>>Amiga!
>
>>I think my original software set-up won't work with Demon any more.
>
>Not much of a probbie to put that right I would think.

Probbie.. I mean, probably not. But I can't see a reason for doing so.
Especially as I'd have to find my old Modem and it's only 28.8k and 
I don't want all the viruses being sent to me downloaded at that speed
when I've blocked them all with Turnpike.

>>>Game reviews by Amiga players http://www.angusm.demon.co.uk/AGDB/AGDB.html
>
>>Must have a look...
>
>I'd be interested to hear your views, and maybe read your reviews.  :)

You didn't write enough about Elite (which I preferred on the Spectrum,
and oddly enough I'm re-reading a book by Robert Holdstock ATM), Dungeon
Master, and a few others. :)

I was annoyed to see that Silly^H^H^H^H^H Super Putty finally made it
out on the CD32 - I'm sure I never saw it for the 1200/4000 - and
I loved the coverdisk of it.

I didn't learn that The Sentinel had an Amiga release until long after
it had disappeared. I did play a couple of levels on a Speccy emulator
yesterday.

I never finished Midwinter II. I'd forgotten about Zeewolf. And I
probably haven't heard of about half of them.

>>Thinking of Amiga games, and my own sporadic efforts in 68k, Amos, and
>>the Blitz... is there anything available for the PC akin to Blitz Basic?
>
>
>Ask somebody who cares!!!!!   ;)
>
>I'm an Amiga user, me.

Am I supposed to deduce from that... "Amiga users don't care"

-- 
Jamie

In article <bkkkjd$bo9$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk>, Paul
<paulc@hectortd.demon.co.uk> writes
>Angus Manwaring wrote:
>> On 18-Sep-03 12:15:11, Jamie said
>>>I think my original software set-up won't work with Demon any more.
>> 
>> Not much of a probbie to put that right I would think.
>
>Wahey! Go, go SupportAngus[tm] ;-)
>
>I'd struggle like hell now to try and fix that without being sat by it.

I doubt I could do it. If what I have can't be configured to log on then
I couldn't download something to help - unless I did it on the PC.

>>>Thinking of Amiga games, and my own sporadic efforts in 68k, Amos, and
>>>the Blitz... is there anything available for the PC akin to Blitz Basic?
>> 
>> Ask somebody who cares!!!!!   ;)
>
>[Jaws theme as the PC users sweep in ;-)]
>
>I /think/ you can get Blitz for the PC, ISTR it being on a cover coffee
>disc a while back. 

That might make sense - I saw a Blitz reference that puzzled me
recently, I think someone has written a Spectrum emulator for the PC in
it.

>That's something I really miss, coverdisks with stuff
>on that you want. I suppose cheaper faster internet access has made them
>a little less interesting, but some of the programs you get free on some
>PC coverdisks are shockingly uninteresting to most.

I gave up computer mags when I gave up the Amiga. PC ones just don't
do it for me. Even the Amiga ones never had the effect on me that Crash
did. <sigh>

I've got a loft full of old Amiga Mags, and Crashes...

The only thing I occasionally get now is Edge. I still feel a little
warmth at an Amiga reference.

>> I'm an Amiga user, me.
>
>Thank you Angus, welcome to Amigas Anonymous ;-)

Bless.

-- 
Jamie

In article <bkklti$d23$2$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk>, Paul
<paulc@hectortd.demon.co.uk> writes
>In article <fUce+nApPaa$EwWk@hornbeam.demon.co.uk>, Jamie wrote:
>> spent on it - so I try not to. But my Microvitec has had an intermittent
>> fault for many years: the red gun only joins in when it feels like it.
>
>Sure that's not just the cable?

Not sure, but fairly certain. No amount of wiggling helped. But if left
switched on it will sometimes kick in, and if it does it often stays. 
Probably just a bad connection inside somewhere, but also probably a
nightmare to find.

>Mine has had the power switch linked out for 7 years, and now does an
>ace searing white spot like the Death Star exploding in the Star Wars
>arcade game when you switch it off ;-)

Sounds highly dramatic! And impressive that that hasn't killed it
entirely.

-- 
Jamie

In article <bkklol$d23$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk>, Paul
<paulc@hectortd.demon.co.uk> writes
>In article <XEfcKbAkIaa$Ew26@hornbeam.demon.co.uk>, Jamie wrote:
>> In article <831.386T2494T13854752neil@digimed.co.uk>, Neil Bothwick
>>>My A4000 died about a year ago. I'm now using a PC running Amithlon
>>>with no other OS installed. To all intents and purposes, it's an Amiga,
>>>albeit a rather fast one :)
>> 
>> I'm clearly several years out of date as far as Miggy stuff goes. I seem
>> to remember downloading an emulator a couple of years back but didn't
>> get anywhere with it.
>
>I guess you had UAE, 

Yes, rings a bell. I think I didn't get passed the ROM
copying/transferring stage.  

>which is a pig to set up from scratch, best bet is
>to find a site that has saved config files for what you are trying to
>run. As a guide, my old K6-2 300 laptop used to play a decent game of
>Settlers, easily comparable to my 030-50, and it did a decent job of UFO.
>Didn't play much else, but it does really hammer the processor temp up.

I haven't looked at my huge map game I've got on my Amiga for a few
years now, might finish it one day. I'm scared of the shock of going
from 3 which I'm replaying these days and the Amiga original. 

>Amithlon is (IIRC) commercial, hence I don't know a great deal about it
>either ;-) But ISTR some controversy/arguments over it a while back.
>Out of interest Neil, what PC hardware is it running on, and have you
>ever benchmarked it against a real Amiga?

Sounds interesting, might have to look into further, thanks.

-- 
Jamie

In article <bkkm2m$d23$3$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk>, Paul
<paulc@hectortd.demon.co.uk> writes
>In article <AkjZC8AWWaa$Ew3L@hornbeam.demon.co.uk>, Jamie wrote:
>> In article <675.386T2381T12185968angus@angusm_ANTISPEM_.demon.co.uk>,
>> Angus Manwaring <angus@angusm_ANTISPEM_.demon.co.uk> writes
>>>Well..... Kosh might have been seen as a kind of Animal.
>> 
>> Not a name I recognise.
>
>Understanding is a three-edged sword.

Like a Toblerone?

>> I wonder if Tez or Dom do any nostalgic lurking.
>
>Doesn't look like it so far.

No. Dom pops up occasionally in another group I read, about one post
a year. Haven't spied Tez in years, not that I've actually looked. I
think he was the first name on the net that I ever met, maybe - it
was a long time ago - at an Amiga thingy in Hammersmith.

-- 
Jamie

In article <BczZMoBTCyb$Ew8s@hornbeam.demon.co.uk>, Jamie wrote:
> In article <bkklti$d23$2$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk>, Paul
>>Mine has had the power switch linked out for 7 years, and now does an
>>ace searing white spot like the Death Star exploding in the Star Wars
>>arcade game when you switch it off ;-)
> 
> Sounds highly dramatic! And impressive that that hasn't killed it
> entirely.

I'm guessing it's something discharging through the tube, but after the
deflection stuff is off, hence the white spot dead centre of the screen.
Only lasts a second or so, guess it's a toss up between the screen getting
a burn in it, or the component finally failing.

Paul