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9 total messages Started by Steve Wade Tue, 09 Aug 2005 18:50
AmitcpDIS Installer???
#452
Author: Steve Wade
Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2005 18:50
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Hello chaps,

The penny finally dropped and I decided to delete everything and start
afresh.

I found my way to Demons ftp site and sorted myself out an installer and
several updates.

When I saw that the installer was actually bundled with all the right Amitcp
files, plus news, www and mail programmes, I thought my troubles were over:
just fill in the information and click the 'okay' buttons. This, I thought,
was how it should be - a script to copy all the right files to the right
places and then write start-up files and config files - my troubles were
over, Amiga had come of age.

Not so.

When Amitcp started, there was a considerable list of files listed and shown
for about ten nano-seconds, as 'not executable'.

It can't dial the phone number either.

So where did I go wrong?
Re: AmitcpDIS Installer???
#453
Author: Paul Copsey
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 09:21
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Steve Wade wrote:

> When Amitcp started, there was a considerable list of files listed and shown
> for about ten nano-seconds, as 'not executable'.

Those all need protect srewd <filename> run on them (I think)

> It can't dial the phone number either.

It's probably an old number.

> So where did I go wrong?

Did you get the updates? I think they fix these issues.

BTW, I didn't ignore your mails (well in a way I did) but I rarely check 
paulc@ as it's full of spam. pdumpster at gmail dot com would be better ;-)

Paul
Re: AmitcpDIS Installer???
#454
Author: Angus Manwaring
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 00:28
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On 10-Aug-05 09:21:14, Paul Copsey said
>Steve Wade wrote:

>> When Amitcp started, there was a considerable list of files listed and
>> shown for about ten nano-seconds, as 'not executable'.

>Those all need protect srewd <filename> run on them (I think)

>> It can't dial the phone number either.

>It's probably an old number.

>> So where did I go wrong?

>Did you get the updates? I think they fix these issues.

>BTW, I didn't ignore your mails (well in a way I did) but I rarely check
>paulc@ as it's full of spam. pdumpster at gmail dot com would be better ;-)


I did a quick dig on google newsgroups, and came up with the following,
from a few years back. It might be of some use.


I appear to now have the system up and running, but I've advised the
"Twins" to replace their hard drive which has been on the way out since
they bought it, and has made this a more frustrating process. I think the
problems I've had are largely that Demon have moved the goalposts since
the '98 update was done, and adapting that setup is probably more complex
for a plodder like me, than using the 96' installer with the updates, and
then getting a recent sendmail installed. It also helped getting PIPE
mounted, maybe one day I'll know what that means..... �possibly a good way
of breaking the ice at parties, "Mmmmmm.... nice dress, BTW I've got PIPE:
mounted."



                  All the best,
                        Angus Manwaring.       (for e-mail remove ANTISPEM)

I need your memories for the Amiga Games Database: A collection of Amiga
Game reviews by Amiga players http://www.angusm.demon.co.uk/AGDB/AGDB.html
Re: AmitcpDIS Installer???
#455
Author: Steve Wade
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 18:43
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Angus wrote/quoted:

> I appear to now have the system up and running, but I've advised the
> "Twins" to replace their hard drive which has been on the way out since
> they bought it, and has made this a more frustrating process. I think the
> problems I've had are largely that Demon have moved the goalposts since
> the '98 update was done, and adapting that setup is probably more complex
> for a plodder like me, than using the 96' installer with the updates, and
> then getting a recent sendmail installed. It also helped getting PIPE
> mounted, maybe one day I'll know what that means..... possibly a good way
> of breaking the ice at parties, "Mmmmmm.... nice dress, BTW I've got PIPE:
> mounted."

If the suggestion is that perhaps things have now gone a bit beyond the
capability of a 1200, then that sounds like good advice and offers the
cautionary note that perhaps any further effort might be a waste of time.

Looks like I will have to look at the options and try another route but for
sure, using an Installer seems to be not quite the correct route.

What I really need or would like, is to have the various components of the
stack explained to me.

How to mount PIPE: is likely to be my very next google - its been bugging me
for a while.

I don't like to give up but it looks like another route to whatever I was
trying to achieve, will have to be sought.
Re: AmitcpDIS Installer???
#456
Author: Paul Copsey
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 09:42
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Steve Wade wrote:
> If the suggestion is that perhaps things have now gone a bit beyond the
> capability of a 1200, then that sounds like good advice and offers the
> cautionary note that perhaps any further effort might be a waste of time.

I would be very surprised if it's impossible. Stunned in fact. Demon's 
dial up hasn't changed that much.

> Looks like I will have to look at the options and try another route but for
> sure, using an Installer seems to be not quite the correct route.

The beauty of the installer is

> What I really need or would like, is to have the various components of the
> stack explained to me.
> 
> How to mount PIPE: is likely to be my very next google - its been bugging me
> for a while.

Move it from storage:dosdrivers to devs:dosdrivers ;-)

> I don't like to give up but it looks like another route to whatever I was
> trying to achieve, will have to be sought.

It is possible from first principles, really depends on how much time 
you want to spend on it.

You need to start with the AmiTCP v4 demo get that working locally, then 
move onto getting dialling working (with PPP1_45reg.lha)

It's very easy with Miami, but I can't remember what the demo limits 
are, or if that will cause you a problem.

Paul
Re: AmitcpDIS Installer???
#457
Author: Steve Wade
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 17:43
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>
> You need to start with the AmiTCP v4 demo get that working locally, then
> move onto getting dialling working (with PPP1_45reg.lha)
>
> It's very easy with Miami, but I can't remember what the demo limits
> are, or if that will cause you a problem.
>
> Paul

I've got Amitcp working (I think) but the set-up I followed is based on SLIP
and so I probably need to adapt it for pop3, if Demon have stopped doing
SLIP.

I had an excursion into Miami over the weekend but found that it needed MUI.
So I got MUI38usr and found that it would not install and stopped with -
can't open " " in line 299.

So another disappointment.

So I'm back to Amitcp - about to download PPP1_45reg.

Thanks for the help!

Steve
Re: AmitcpDIS Installer???
#458
Author: Paul Copsey
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 08:26
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Steve Wade wrote:
> I've got Amitcp working (I think) but the set-up I followed is based on SLIP

ping 127.0.0.1 should prove that

> and so I probably need to adapt it for pop3, if Demon have stopped doing
> SLIP.

Adapt for PPP ;-)

> I had an excursion into Miami over the weekend but found that it needed MUI.
> So I got MUI38usr and found that it would not install and stopped with -
> can't open " " in line 299.

Probably need to update the installer program to install Miami, I'm 
pretty sure that's the problem there.

> So I'm back to Amitcp - about to download PPP1_45reg.

Well, you're ahead of that now, but never mind ;-)

Paul
Re: AmitcpDIS Installer???
#459
Author: Angus Manwaring
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 18:54
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On 12-Aug-05 18:43:52, Steve Wade said
>Angus wrote/quoted:

>> I appear to now have the system up and running, but I've advised the
>> "Twins" to replace their hard drive which has been on the way out since
>> they bought it, and has made this a more frustrating process. I think the
>> problems I've had are largely that Demon have moved the goalposts since
>> the '98 update was done, and adapting that setup is probably more complex
>> for a plodder like me, than using the 96' installer with the updates, and
>> then getting a recent sendmail installed. It also helped getting PIPE
>> mounted, maybe one day I'll know what that means..... possibly a good way
>> of breaking the ice at parties, "Mmmmmm.... nice dress, BTW I've got PIPE:
>> mounted."

>If the suggestion is that perhaps things have now gone a bit beyond the
>capability of a 1200, then that sounds like good advice and offers the
>cautionary note that perhaps any further effort might be a waste of time.

Well, the 1200 I'm using is coping just fine. Of course there are some
irritations with Amiga software not being as modern as we'd like causing
problems with some websites, but generally, I don't think your 1200
hardware is related to your problem, unless its broken.


                  All the best,
                        Angus Manwaring.       (for e-mail remove ANTISPEM)

I need your memories for the Amiga Games Database: A collection of Amiga
Game reviews by Amiga players http://www.angusm.demon.co.uk/AGDB/AGDB.html
Re: AmitcpDIS Installer???
#461
Author: Steve Wade
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 22:13
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Hi Guys,

I would just like to announce that I have Amitcp up and running and I can
email and browse - so I have achieved what I wanted/needed.

Learnt a few things too.

But most of all I would like to thank Paul and Angus for the invaluable help
they have given me over the last couple of weeks.

Its reassuring to know that the Amiga brotherhood is still extant. ;-)

Best regards,

Steve Wade
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