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4 total messages Started by Tim Fountain Tue, 20 Oct 1998 00:00
Bouncy emails again...
#313
Author: Tim Fountain
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 00:00
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Hi all,

A lot of my emails recently are bouncing, with:

|------------------------- Message log follows: -------------------------|
 Your message couldn't be sent, reason:
 internal error: Message truncated before valid terminator
|------------------------- Message text follows: ------------------------|

At the top.  This is getting very annoying, as I keep having to re-write
long emails.  I had this problem a few months ago, but it seemed to solve
itself.  Now it seems to be back :-(.  Any ideas?


TIA.

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Re: Bouncy emails again...
#314
Author: Dave Roberts
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 00:00
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In article <48981cc104tim@markgf.demon.co.uk>, Tim Fountain
<URL:mailto:tim@acornarcade.com> wrote:

[Snip truncated message error]

> I had this problem a few months ago, but it seemed to solve itself.  Now
> it seems to be back :-(.  Any ideas?

The error would suggest that the message you are sending hasn't got the
([LF].[LF] I think it is) that signifies the end of a message. Try looking
at a raw queued message to check that it ends in this way. If it doesn't it
may be a Pluto problem. I would guess the error's being sent to you from
Demons mailer-daemon? But if it isn't, it may signify a problem at the
recipients end. Anyway, somewhere along the line it's been botched but any
clues as to where lie in the headers of the error message.

-- 
Dave Roberts

Dave@pharpech.demon.co.uk
mrpdjro@leeds.ac.uk
Re: Bouncy emails again...
#315
Author: Tim Fountain
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 00:00
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In article <ant202029b49XL#k@pharpech.demon.co.uk>,
   Dave Roberts <Dave@pharpech.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <48981cc104tim@markgf.demon.co.uk>, Tim Fountain
> <URL:mailto:tim@acornarcade.com> wrote:

> > I had this problem a few months ago, but it seemed to solve itself. 
> > Now it seems to be back :-(.  Any ideas?

> The error would suggest that the message you are sending hasn't got the
> ([LF].[LF] I think it is) that signifies the end of a message. Try
> looking at a raw queued message to check that it ends in this way.

There is a dot at the end of each message, is this what you mean?  I don't
see any [LF]s.

> If it doesn't it may be a Pluto problem.

Well the last time I had this problem I was using Marcel.  I have only
started using Pluto recently though...

> I would guess the error's being sent to you from Demons mailer-daemon?

Yep.

> But if it isn't, it may signify a problem at the recipients end.

Well this has happened with emails do different people, so it's unlikely
to be that.

> Anyway, somewhere along the line it's been botched but any clues as to
> where lie in the headers of the error message.

Okay, thanks for your help.


Tim.

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Fountain Design, HTML tutorials, optimising graphics, Visit Acorn Arcade,
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Re: Bouncy emails again...
#317
Author: Richard Sargeant
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 00:00
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Dave@pharpech.demon.co.uk (Dave Roberts) wrote:

> Tim Fountain <URL:mailto:tim@acornarcade.com> wrote:
> [Snip truncated message error]

> > I had this problem a few months ago, but it seemed to solve
> > itself.  Now it seems to be back :-(.  Any ideas?
>
> The error would suggest that the message you are sending hasn't got
> the ([LF].[LF] I think it is) that signifies the end of a message.

The EOT signal in SMTP is [CR][LF].[CR][LF] so yours would be incorrect.

From draft-ietf-drums-msg-fmt-05.txt (a work in progress) August 5, 1998:

: 2.3. Body
:
: The body of a message is simply lines of US-ASCII characters.

This implies that top-bit set characters (eg. ��� will get lost) in mail.

: The only two limitations on the body are as follows:
:
: - CR and LF MUST only occur together as CRLF; they MUST NOT appear
: independently in the body.
:
: - Lines of characters in the body MUST be limited to 998 characters, and
: SHOULD be limited to 78 characters, excluding the CRLF.

BTW, that's Copyright (C) The Internet Society (1998). All Rights Reserved.

Some SMTP servers may allow LFs or CRs, but that's just being liberal.
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