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In article <48bc8322b7tim@markgf.demon.co.uk>, Tim Fountain
<URL:mailto:tim@markgf.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The following problem has happened to me a couple of times over the last
> month or so, I /think/ it's a problem with the Demon mail server, not me,
> but I could be wrong.  I'm running Pluto with the ANT Suite on an A7000+.
> 
> Yesterday afternoon, I sent a couple of emails.  The second had an
> attachment.  The second that I sent them, they bounced back with:
> 
> |------------------------- Message log follows: -------------------------|
>  Your message couldn't be sent, reason:
>  internal error: Message truncated before valid terminator
> |------------------------- Message text follows: ------------------------|
> 
> At the top.  I resent both messages.  This morning I discovered that the
> messages had actually been sent, but both to the same person (the person
> who the first email should have gone to, but not the second).  He said
> that the first email was mangled, he only got half of it, and then he got
> the text and attachment from the first mail as if they were the same one
> (IYSWIM). 
> 
> This resulted in a confidential document being sent where it shouldn't
> have been.  This wasn't a major problem this time, but obviously this is
> not something I want to happen often.
> 
> Anyone got any ideas?  Is it a problem my end?

I seem to recall somebody mentioning that it was because
Demon expected LF+CR on the end of lines not just LF
which the arc produces. This apparently resulted in the
terminator at the end of the email not being recognised
hence assumed to be missing.

Must be a Pluto + Demon problem.

As to a solution, mmmm, pass.

Roger.

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In message <48bc8322b7tim@markgf.demon.co.uk>
          Tim Fountain <tim@markgf.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> The following problem has happened to me a couple of times over the last
> month or so, I /think/ it's a problem with the Demon mail server, not me,
> but I could be wrong.  I'm running Pluto with the ANT Suite on an A7000+.
> 
> Yesterday afternoon, I sent a couple of emails.  The second had an
> attachment.  The second that I sent them, they bounced back with:
> 
> |------------------------- Message log follows: -------------------------|
>  Your message couldn't be sent, reason:
>  internal error: Message truncated before valid terminator
> |------------------------- Message text follows: ------------------------|
> 
> At the top.  I resent both messages.  This morning I discovered that the
> messages had actually been sent, but both to the same person (the person
> who the first email should have gone to, but not the second).  He said
> that the first email was mangled, he only got half of it, and then he got
> the text and attachment from the first mail as if they were the same one
> (IYSWIM). 

Is it always attachments that do this? Or is it random emails?
Is it reproducable?

If it is, it might be worth emailing a problem set of emails to
Jonathan, or inspecting them yourself - the messages should all end
with <CR><LF>.<CR><LF>, and should not contain that sequence anywhere
else.

bfn,

Joseph

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In message <48BCB7E46F%joseph@ping.demon.co.uk>
          Joseph Heenan <joseph-n@ping.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> In message <48bc8322b7tim@markgf.demon.co.uk>
>           Tim Fountain <tim@markgf.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > |------------------------ Message log follows: ------------------------|
> >  Your message couldn't be sent, reason:
> >  internal error: Message truncated before valid terminator
> > |------------------------ Message text follows: -----------------------|
> 
> Is it always attachments that do this? Or is it random emails?
> Is it reproducable?

I've had this problem when for some reason Demon rejected all my posts
to mail.demon.co.uk. All mails were bounced by InetSuite (yes...not the
Demon mail server), and I had to manually resend all. I'm quite certain
the above message log is generated by InetSuite and not the server.

All the best,

        Marc Warne
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In article <f41940bd48%marc@alphapro.demon.co.uk>, Marc Warne
<URL:mailto:marc@alphapro.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <48BCB7E46F%joseph@ping.demon.co.uk>
>           Joseph Heenan <joseph-n@ping.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > In message <48bc8322b7tim@markgf.demon.co.uk>
> >           Tim Fountain <tim@markgf.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > 
> > > |------------------------ Message log follows: ------------------------|
> > >  Your message couldn't be sent, reason:
> > >  internal error: Message truncated before valid terminator
> > > |------------------------ Message text follows: -----------------------|
> > 
> > Is it always attachments that do this? Or is it random emails?
> > Is it reproducable?
> 
> I've had this problem when for some reason Demon rejected all my posts
> to mail.demon.co.uk. All mails were bounced by InetSuite (yes...not the
> Demon mail server), and I had to manually resend all. I'm quite certain
> the above message log is generated by InetSuite and not the server.

Quite right too ! :-)
(it should be post.demon.co.uk)

BFN !
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In message <ant0200433134X#s@arcstone.demon.co.uk>
          Robin Clive-Matthews <robin@arcstone.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <f41940bd48%marc@alphapro.demon.co.uk>, Marc Warne
> 
> > I've had this problem when for some reason Demon rejected all my posts
> > to mail.demon.co.uk. All mails were bounced by InetSuite (yes...not the
> > Demon mail server), and I had to manually resend all. I'm quite certain
> > the above message log is generated by InetSuite and not the server.
> 
> Quite right too ! :-)
> (it should be post.demon.co.uk)

You know what I mean! ;-)

All the best,

        Marc Warne
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