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In demon.ip.support.atari, Neil@yr-ynys.compulink.co.uk (Neil Martin) wrote:
>The internet is full of non-standard, non-compliant stuff. I have been 
>amazed by how many stupid problems Dave has come up against. 
>I'll give you a non-Demon example: cixip sends the first two packets 
>of mail (and news) as one packet; the software has to ignore the 
>first packet termination. 

Er, that looks like a non-Internet example.  What's a "packet of mail"?
SMTP mail arrives on TCP port 25, news arrives on TCP port 119 (I think), or
by way of a connection to that port on the remote machine.  I don't see how
there's any scope for confusion.  Is this some proprietary CIX thing?

>What I'm pointing out here is that ICE doesn't always (yet) cope with 
>the bugs in other software/systems; there are so many that it will 
>take time to sort them all out. If you want to call this sort of 
>problem a major bug in ICE then you are being unfair and inaccurate.

It may prove to be inaccurate in that particular case, but given that I only
suggested it as a possibility and didn't state it as a fact, I don't think
it's unfair.

>There's nothing wrong with criticism. Constructive criticism is a good 
>thing. Criticising something you obviously don't understand, and have 
>never seen, is moronic^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hpointless.

Translation: "I'm cool because I'm in the Oasis 2 beta programme."

What I "obviously don't understand" is why anybody should assume that a
problem lies with a service provider and not with the beta-test software
they are using.  Look at all the dozens of implementations of TCP/IP for
various platforms - they all seem to work fine with Demon, don't they?
To suggest that Demon have been sending out faulty data all these years -
which all this software has coped with perfectly well, mind you - is a
smokescreen.

Stephen
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