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Re: NewsWatch just killed Oasis2.

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From: David Bolt
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 00:00
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On 19 Nov 97 18:10:26 G, Gary Priest wrote:
>  In article <20724957_000034_OASIS_NEWS@elis.demon.co.uk>
>   augeas@elis.demon.co.uk (G Greenway) wrote:-
> 
> >        Well, it *did*. It's back now, but I lost all my news. The
> >        new groups file went haywire, and did all sorts of things to
> >        my partition. I had to copy across a new new news directory from
> >        the Oasis.210 distribution. An annyance, and it was never that
> >        much faster than ICE anyway. Beware. POPWatch is a different kettle
> >        of fish. No moan there.
> 
> What version of NEWSwatch are you using? I'm pretty sure I fixed a
> similar problem in v1.10, but maybe it's a different problem.
> 
> In past experience, Oasis2 has never needed much help in losing all my
> newsbase. I've lost count of the times it's done it to me :(
> I've always found NEWSwatch to be *much* faster than ICE and more *stable*,
> ICE hangs whilst downloading news and is about as stable as the Mir Space
> Station :)

I used to have a problem with Oasis2, where it would try and loose my news.
I used to get round it by using MonST2 as a debugger/shell, and skipping
over the part that threw the bombs, as and when they appeared. Eventually I
got so p*ssed with it, I deleted all of it, except the folders required by
newswatch and wrote a program to convert from the Oasis2 to Newsie format.
I even did one for the headers, with it's own killfile. All I have to do is
figure out why the compiled version of the unbatch program doesn't want to
work. The header reader does, but not the unbatcher.

> >        (Using a Mark X and Magic at the time. I still reckon Oasis / ICE
> >        is best for news. 400 articles per group with newsie just doesn't
> >        cut it. I might be tempted to try the FTP client, though.)
> 
> I have to agree. I still use Oasis2 (just not ICE).

I can't see any reason for the 400 articles limit. I've started writing
another program to remove the oldest articles when the 400 file limit is
reached. It's a bit of a pain, but life wouldn't be half as much fun if
everything worked perfectly.

>                                                     For FTP, use aFTP. It's
> brilliant. It has problems with uploading files when running under STiNG
> (not STiK though).

As for newsie and it's FTP, it's got a 200 file limit in the FTP directory
window. That, I think, is a bigger pain than the 400 article limit. It makes
it impossible to use Umich, and several other sites with large directories,
as one of Umichs directories has somewhere around 500 entries in it.

Another thing is the fact that Unix allows filenames to have spaces in it
and, so far, I haven't found a single FTP package that can cope with it.
Newsie truncates the display to the first space, MG-FTP displays the full
name but when downloading, requests a truncated name.

Regards,
      David              E-Mail :- dbolt@my-ste.demon.co.uk

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From: dbolt@my-ste.demon.co.uk (David Bolt)
Subject: Re: NewsWatch just killed Oasis2.
Date: 1997/11/21
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