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Article #1879

Re: BIG Mail Problems

#1879
From: Guy Harrison
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 00:00
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 In article <829475766_OASIS_@phil4.demon.co.uk>
  phil4@phil4.demon.co.uk (Phil Hough) said:-

>I can't get emails to be sent !!!!!!!!!!
>
>I log on and I've got SMTP TRACE 3 So I can see whats going on !!
>
>I get SMTP Trying to connect direct to the address,
>then SMTP trying to connect to the gateway
>then SMTP gives up and sends QUIT !!!!

This can happen at times for various reasons, one of the most common 
ones I find, is when a newsfeed is active (maybe a memory or socket 
problem). Try increasing smtp maxclients to 20 or more.

First, check that post is working (status@gate, ping or a hop check). 
If it is then keep kicking news (smtp kick) until it goes - with a lot 
of emails it get get a bit strange, and only send a couple at a time, 
so repeated "sm k" and "sm l" are the order of the day!

Routing (or whatever) is a bit iffy as well atm. Do "ppp sl0" and 
check that everything says "connected" basically. It will probably be 
hunky dory - now "finger phil4@post". It may take up to a couple of 
*minutes* before it responds. Until it does *nothing* else will work 
either. If this is the case, it's a demon problem.

>And now I can't send ANY emails !!!
>
>My SMTP section of STARTUP.NOS looks like this:
>
>smtp timer 600
>smtp wait 1
>smtp trace 3
>smtp maxclients 10
>smtp beep on
>smtp gateway [158.152.1.72]
>smtp verbose on
>smtp delay 1
>smtp batch off
>
>I tried changing the line smtp getway [158.152.1.72] to smtp gateway 
>post.demon.co.uk

That's fine, the name should be used in preference to the address.

>when I started NOS it said before logging on that post.demon.co.uk is 
>unkown, and then when sending the mail it says:

This springs to mind ...

To resolve the address for post.demon.co.uk it must have access to the 
DNS which is obviously not going to be able to help at all until you 
have successfully logged on. Maybe for some reason, Nos is trying to 
access the DNS before logging in.

>smtp unkonwn address: <82133???_OASISMAIL@phil4.demon.co.uk> or 
>something pretty similar !!!

I had Nos throw a fit in various odd ways whilst trying to tweek 
parameters like mss and mru.

>Any suggestions ??? I've got 30+emails building up waiting to be sent 
>:(

Here's my current startup.nos - it currently works rather well but as 
I've changed some values from the "you *must* set it to this" ones to 
"let's see if that will crash it" ones then bear in mind it's all on 
your head! :-))

[Note that you need to hit SHIFT-F1 for it to dial]

# startup file for KA9Q-NOS ST (DIS Version) 

hostname swampdog.demon.co.uk

ip addr [158.152.224.11]

# Attach the SLIP driver to the serial port 
#      if  port 0 slip dev buff mru  baud
#      --- ---- - ---- --- ---- ---  ----
attach asy AUX: 0 ppp sl0 32767 4096 19200 

# how many hops before a packet is discarded (Time To Live)
ip ttl 64

# tcp parameters can be tuned. 
tcp mss 536
tcp window 32000
tcp irtt 3000
tcp syndata on

# ppp parameters
ppp sl0 lcp local mru 4096
ppp sl0 lcp remote mru 4096
ppp sl0 lcp local accm 0x000a0000
ppp sl0 lcp local pfc on
ppp sl0 lcp local acfc on
ppp sl0 ipcp local compress tcp 16 1 
ppp sl0 lcp open active
ppp sl0 ipcp open active
ppp sl0 idle 600 exit

# Setup Simple Mail Transfer Protocol parameters
# time before direct email posting gives up
smtp timer 600
smtp wait 1
smtp trace 3
smtp maxclients 20
smtp beep on
smtp gateway post.demon.co.uk
#smtp gateway [158.152.1.72]
smtp verbose on
smtp delay 1
smtp batch off

# Setup Network News Transfer Protocol parameters 
nntp groups demon.announce demon.ip.support.atari
nntp addserver news.demon.co.uk 3600 
#nntp addserver disabuse.demon.co.uk 600 
#nntp addserver distort.demon.co.uk 600 
nntp dir \OASIS\spool\articles
nntp trace 0
nntp verbose on
nntp batch on 16
nntp safety off
nntp newgroups on

# function keys F1-10   59-68    (do not use 68)
# sh F1-f10             84-93
# ct f1-f10             94-103
# at f1-f10             104-113
# help                  98

fkey 59 "finger status@gate\n"
fkey 60 "finger swampdog@post\n"
fkey 61 "nntp kick\n"
fkey 62 "smtp kick\n"
fkey 63 "nntp addserver news.demon.co.uk 1\n"
fkey 64 "nntp addserver news.demon.co.uk 3600\n"
fkey 66 "ls -CFa\n"
fkey 67 "swampdog@\n"
fkey 84 "dial sl0 dial.txt\n"
fkey 91 "ifconfig sl0 up\n"
fkey 92 "exit\n"
fkey 93 "ppp sl0 lcp close\n"

echo refuse

# ns1.demon.co.uk
#domain addserver [158.152.1.193]

# gate.demon.co.uk
#domain addserver [158.152.1.65]

# ns2.demon.net
#domain addserver [192.68.174.95]

#ns-cache-1.demon.co.uk
domain addserver [158.152.1.58]

#ns-cache-2.demon.co.uk
domain addserver [158.152.1.43]

domain suffix demon.co.uk
domain cache clean on
domain cache size 100
domain cache wait 300

icmp echo on
icmp trace off

# gate
#route add default sl0 158.152.1.65 1
# demon-du
route add default sl0 158.152.1.222 1

#time server 158.152.1.65        
#time server ntp.demon.co.uk
#time auto off

log G:\OASIS\spool\nos.log

ftpopt byte
ftpopt page on
ftpopt binary

smtp list
nntp messages

# Start the servers 
start smtp
start  discard
start  finger
start ttylink

#dial sl0 dial.txt



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Guy Harrison

guy@swampdog.demon.co.uk

  
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From: guy@swampdog.demon.co.uk (Guy Harrison)
Subject: Re: BIG Mail Problems
Date: 1996/04/13
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