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In demon.ip.support.atari, gary@imco.demon.co.uk (Gary Noack) wrote:
> In article <199603170115.AA01801@moroder.demon.co.uk>
>  Stephen Mulrine <robotron@moroder.demon.co.uk> said:-
>>If everything they do is a matter of commercial judgement, explain the
>>existence of pubnews.
>So it does exist then ;-)
>Demon say that it's unsupported (no change there).

But it does exist, it costs money to run, and it brings them no obvious
benefit.  In fact, it might even have the opposite effect, as the very
existence of public access news servers means that service providers without
their own news servers can still attract customers.

>>It works for me.  But then, my newsreader automatically retries if it
>>can't get a connection to the server.  The longest I've had to wait
>>recently is about 8 minutes.
>Eight minutes is a long time, you can't seriously be happy with that.

I don't think it's too bad, considering that two of their three news
machines broke down.  You could possibly accuse them of buying cheap,
unreliable computers, but we've all had hardware problems, I'm sure.

>>Well, go and find out, and give us all peace.
>Nobody has to read this thread if they don't want to and who exactly is 'us
>all'.

Yeah, but they're probably downloading it all the same.  (:  "Us all" would
be everybody else who's thinking, "Oh God, is this thread still going on?
It's not even in the right newsgroup."  Except they're too tactful/polite to
speak up.

>>Did I mention telephone support?  No, I didn't.  With an obscure machine,
>Obscure?
In terms of net access..
>>you're not going to have much luck with any service provider.  But what
>>you have got with Demon is an established base of experts using the same
>>service.  I don't recall seeing too many articles from Pipex users on,
>>say, comp.sys.atari.st.
>'established base of experts' you're being ironic now, aren't you?

No, seriously.  Look how successfully we tracked down that NOS bug with news
articles containing percent signs, and consider all the recent bug reports
and workarounds for, er, certain other packages (I don't want to get into
trouble here).

>>You obviously can't remember just how bad it used to be.  (:
>Yeah I do, Imagine what would happen if instead of apologising for a late
>train Brit. Rail would just state that it's better than the old days, like
>before horses were invented or something.

Well, they do just that with their performance indicators, don't they?  (:

>BTW Stephen you're head seems to on upside down :)

Or it could be yours.  (It's force of habit, actually.  I always used to set
up text editors (e.g. vi, emacs) to work in C programming mode, and an
unmatched right bracket, such as one might find in a "conventional" smiley,
caused an irritating bleep or warning.)

>So when are Demon gonna pipe in and say something? we're waiting.

Try demon.service.  (:

Stephen
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