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 In article <822450326_OASIS_@ancient-future.com>
  info@ancient-future.com (Ancient Future) said:-

>I was getting the 480 transfer permission denied message with non-Demon
>newsservers, too, until I got the NOS version NOS_POP3.ZIP from August 1995.
>That will allow you to post to non-Demon newsservers. Demon Internet does
>things a lot different than most other ISP's. Because OASIS and NOS were
>developed in the Demon environment, it created a lot of problems for using
>them with American ISP's. Another problem with NOS is that it relies
>exclusively on the NEWNEWS command to get news. Most American ISP's have
>disabled that command on their servers because it is considered too slow and
>inefficient. So now I can post through the newsserver at my ISP, but I have
>to get my news through the public server at Demon, which is very slow and
>usually busy.
>
>WHERE TO FIND NOS
>
>The umich ftp site has the NOS version you need. I suggest this mirror:
>
>ftp.toad.net
>
>pub/umich/Network/ka9q/Nos/nos_pop3.zip
                   ^^^^
                   Ka9q  (with upper case K)

    Marvellous! I thank you much for this solution, it works, I can now
post thru news.compuserve.com, news.zippo.com, and surely many other
public-access newsservers. Still have the 501 error due to the second
GROUP command, but without consequences... here is a session record:

------------------- cut -------------------------
NNTP daemon entered, target = news.compuserve.com
< 200 news.compuserve.com InterNetNews NNRP server INN 1.4 22-Dec-93 ready (posting ok).
> GROUP demon.ip.support.atari
< 211 21 623 643 demon.ip.support.atari
> GROUP
< 501 newsgroup
501 newsgroup
> POST
< 340 Ok
< 240 Article posted
------------------- cut -------------------------

    What is changed? The method used by NOS_POP3 to send my article. NOS
normal version used the IHAVE command (with the message-ID) to inform the
server, and the server could accept it or not after comparing with his
HISTORY file. According to the RFC-977 this method is more designed for
discussion between 2 newsservers. NOS_POP3 use the inconditional POST
command, more efficient for our usage... send 1, 2, 3... 10 (or more)
articles that we have just written (with no danger of double post). Well,
I said "inconditional", it's not really true... but you see what I mean.

    The source of my "480 Transfer permission denied" error was that
news.compuserve.com do not allow the IHAVE method... It was almost the
same with news.zippo.com, but his error was 400. Only pubnews.demon allow
this method... AFAIK, because I tested only this 3 servers. (I have to
find a french public server, if someone know one...)

    I hope the coders of Oasis/ICE read this, to eventually permit in ICE
the two posting methods...

    Now, you use the POP3 version, and certainly know it very well? Whats
new appart of the Post-office-protocol and the IHAVE/POST stuff? And the
POP configuration, how do you make it?

    For your server problem (other than demon not accepting NEWNEWS) try
news.zippo.com, it works very well, and is (for me) only a little bit
slower than CIS. The far slowest is pubnews.demon.co.uk, sometimes I have
transfer as low as 80-90 CPS! Yes, I live in France, but my compuserve
link to Great Brittain passes by the usa......... ssslllooowwwwlllyyy!

Thanks again! bye!      Bruno.
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