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Re: nntp response codes

#2223
From: Bruno Kozlowski
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 00:00
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 In article <822011038_OASIS_@swampdog.demon.co.uk>
  guy@swampdog.demon.co.uk (Guy Harrison) said:-

>The other common one is 501 which is a complaint about syntax - ignore
>it.

Well, I'm not a nntp guru, but I believe it's because of a NOS bug. In a
nntp session, before NOS send his IHAVE command, it sets the newsgroup of
your posting by a GROUP command. This command is (wrongly) sent twice, once
with the newsgroup name, and once without. It's in response to this second
command that the server send his 501 syntax error. But he remembers the
first one, and the posting sequence can continue... on the demon newsserver
it works like this:

------------------- cut -------------------------
NNTP daemon entered, target = pubnews.demon.co.uk
< 200 Demon Internet NewsBorg 1.08-shm (posting ok)
> GROUP comp.sys.atari.st
< 211 878 15490 16367 comp.sys.atari.st
> GROUP
< 501 usage: GROUP newsgroup
501 usage: GROUP newsgroup
> IHAVE <821664980_OASIS_@compuserve.com>
< 335 send article to be transferred. End with <CR-LF>.<CR-LF>
< 235 ok
------------------- cut -------------------------

All lines begining with > are commands sent by NOS, all lines begining with
< are sent by the server, other ones are what you have on screen when
you're not in nntp trace 3 level, and the article I was trying to post
(succesfully) to comp.sys.atari.st is referenced in line 8.

But when I try to post something on my providers server, It does not work
at all.... here is the session record of an unsucessfull posting try
performed before the one above:

------------------- cut -------------------------
NNTP daemon entered, target = news.compuserve.com
< 200 news.compuserve.com InterNetNews NNRP server INN 1.4 22-Dec-93 ready (posting ok).
> GROUP comp.sys.atari.st
< 211 191 119056 119246 comp.sys.atari.st
> GROUP
< 501 newsgroup
501 newsgroup
> IHAVE <821664980_OASIS_@compuserve.com>
< 480 Transfer permission denied
480 Transfer permission denied
------------------ cut --------------------------

Two things:
  1)this server is less informative in his error messages, demon gives a
usage message...
  2)I think it's because of that GROUP error that the posting transfer is
later denied, without it the posting to c.s.a.s would work?

Am I wrong? Why is NOS sending GROUP twice? Is there a correcting patch?
Perhaps another solution so that I can post thru compuserve? Is there a
NOS/nntp guru? When will the sun shine again? What is in the fridge for
lunch?

bye! Bruno.
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	/* Bruno Kozlowski 100710.1360@compuserve.com */
	/* -==- A happy Falcon owner from france -==- */
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From: 100710.1360@compuserve.com (Bruno Kozlowski)
Subject: Re: nntp response codes
Date: 1996/01/21
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