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Simon Husbands <Simon@husbands.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>  In article <199709130023212729903@pwomar.demon.co.uk>
>   Newsmaster@pwomar.demon.co.uk (Paul Womar) said:-
> 
> >It's called "active" and is on ftp.demon.co.uk, in something like the
> >pub/news directory.  There are plenty of compressed versions to choose
> >
> I downloaded the active.zip file from the Demon ftp site and it does
> indeed list all the NG's, but if you rename it 'NG' and put it in your
> /SPOOL/NEWS folder, Oasis 1.35 ( for me anyway ) only seems to recognise
> the first 240 newsgroups.It
> scrolls down them and stops after 240 groups,

I'm sure I did that and it worked just fine, I believe it also has
comments such as "moderated" in it, perhaps these are causing the
problem?

Hi Simon

In article <874308570_OASIS_@husbands.demon.co.uk>
  Simon@husbands.demon.co.uk (Simon Husbands) wrote:-

>>It's called "active" and is on ftp.demon.co.uk, in something like the
>>pub/news directory.  There are plenty of compressed versions to choose
>>
>I downloaded the active.zip file from the Demon ftp site and it does indeed list
>all the NG's, but if you rename it 'NG' and put it in your /SPOOL/NEWS folder,
>Oasis 1.35 ( for me anyway ) only seems to recognise the first 240 newsgroups.It
>scrolls down them and stops after 240 groups, but I know the rest of them are
>there in the file. Anyone know what we can do to get around this? It's
>irritating not being able to browse and click to add a new news group. 

Didn't you get exactly the same problem when you used NEWSwatch to download
the active groups? This does now seem to point the finger at Oasis not being
to handle the sheer number of entries in the file. Kind of takes the
suspicion away from NEWSwatch (phew), as your getting exactly the same
problem without using it.

Gary


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 In article <341e9291.2067342@news.demon.co.uk>
  guy@swampdog.demon.co.uk (Guy Harrison) wrote:-

>On Mon, 15 Sep 97 07:29:30 GMT, Simon@husbands.demon.co.uk (Simon
>Husbands) wrote:
>
>>I downloaded the active.zip file from the Demon ftp site and it does indeed list
>>all the NG's, but if you rename it 'NG' and put it in your /SPOOL/NEWS folder,
>>Oasis 1.35 ( for me anyway ) only seems to recognise the first 240 newsgroups.It
>>scrolls down them and stops after 240 groups, but I know the rest of them are
>>there in the file. Anyone know what we can do to get around this? It's
>>irritating not being able to browse and click to add a new news group. 
>
>Oasis has an upper limit on the size this file can be. Now, if memory
>serves, ACTIVE contains additional information over and above the
>group names. It's a standard text file so please check - it's been a
>while since I had to deal with it. iirc each line needs to be ...
>
>[groupname]<CR><LF>
>
>.. or possibly ...
>
>[groupname] [suggested filename to use]<CR><LF>
>
>.. whereas in fact ACTIVE has a lot more info than this on each line.
>The solution is to get rid of the extra info, either with a suitable
>filtering utility (grep etc might work) or by using an editor which
>can delete columns (I think protext can, "box mode" or something).
>
>Assuming I've got the format right, then you should end up with a file
>of roughly half a meg.

Simon got the same problem using an active file downloaded by NEWSwatch too
, I think. NEWSwatch automatically strips out all the crap and results in a
file of about half a meg. So it seems that even that is too big for Oasis to
cope with.
 
>Another worry I've long since harboured is that the number of
>newsgroups in existence now is reaching the point where Oasis 1.xx
>will not be able to process it because of this size limit. For that
>reason I disabled automatic updates of NG last year - no corruption
>since. Another solution would be to chop out those groups which you'll
>never need.

I think you could be right in this. Oasis was written some time ago, when
there weren't nearly as many newsgroups.
 
>If you are careful to follow the formatting, you can do without NG by
>editing active.dat and nntp.dat directly. NG is only used by Oasis
>when you subscribe to groups - the rest of the time it's just wasting
>space.

Yep. Or use NEWSwatch :)

Gary


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On 16 Sep 97 07:48:10 G, Gary Priest wrote:
> Didn't you get exactly the same problem when you used NEWSwatch to download
> the active groups? This does now seem to point the finger at Oasis not being
> to handle the sheer number of entries in the file. Kind of takes the
> suspicion away from NEWSwatch (phew), as your getting exactly the same
> problem without using it.

Gary, what is NEWSwatch, and where can I get it?

Ollie

 In article <874539677.20893.0.nnrp-05.c2de4f5e@news.demon.co.uk>
  obroadway@cix.co.uk (Oliver Broadway) wrote:-

>On 16 Sep 97 07:48:10 G, Gary Priest wrote:
>> Didn't you get exactly the same problem when you used NEWSwatch to download
>> the active groups? This does now seem to point the finger at Oasis not being
>> to handle the sheer number of entries in the file. Kind of takes the
>> suspicion away from NEWSwatch (phew), as your getting exactly the same
>> problem without using it.
>
>Gary, what is NEWSwatch, and where can I get it?

NEWSwatch does a similar job to POPwatch in that it provides a STiK
interface to send/retrieve news articles for use in Oasis1.3 and Oasis2.
It's unfortunately of no use if you use NEWSie though.

Version 1.00 of NEWSwatch is now available at my web site :)

Gary


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