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Windows 2000 - problems accessing demon mail

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From: Mart Hugh Rogers
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 00:00
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Is there likely to be a W2K support ng soon - I fear we may need it.

I got around to installing Turnpike 3.05 (yes I know it's old but it has
worked fine until now) onto a clean installation of W2K Professional.

I can collect news fine. However I noticed that I hadn't received any
email since it had been installed (which was a little odd).  So I sent
some through to my demon account via another ISP.

Turnpike is installed 'out of the box' no special configuration, a
single catch all mailbox, and set up for SMTP automatic collection.
No mail arrived after many minutes of being online.  I then fingered the
mail box and there were emails present in the punts.  I sat and waited a
little longer - nothing, I fingered again and all the emails had gone!!

I dialled back into my other ISP mail account and each mail had bounced
- see the bounce at the bottom of this article.


I sent some more test emails through to my demon account and this time
disabled turnpike mail collection. Did a finger, mail was present in the
punts again, Went to access the mail via WebMail - it had all gone.
Again I checked back in at my other ISP account - they had all bounced.

Next I carried out the same out-of-the-box installation of turnpike 3.05
on a win98 partition and did the same tests.  All mail came in fine - no
problems.



Conclusion
----------
Some aspect of Windows 2000 seems to be affecting the ability of demon
to server email.  Since it fails under both Web Mail and Turnpike this
cannot be SMTP or POP3 or Turnpike specific in this respect.  I have
three possibilities - I welcome any comments :

1. The Turnpike 'potted' dialup is not comaptible with the way that W2K
sets up its networking.  Perhaps the machine does not believe it is on
the demon network.

2. Using Finger on the demon mailbox is causing a problem (I doubt this,
but have to mention it as it is a common factor)

3. I have a 3 com network card installed, again perhaps there is some
confusion in W2K about what network it is on.  


Any thoughts or comments appreciated,

bounced email...
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Subject: Mail Delivery failed: returning to sender

This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.

A message that you sent could not be delivered to all of its recipients. 
The following address(es) failed:

  rogers.demon.co.uk [194.222.62.114]:

MAIL FROM:<mhr@xxx.co.uk>
250 2.1.0 mhr@xxx.co.uk....Sender OK
RCPT TO:<mart@rogers.demon.co.uk>
550 5.7.1 Unable to relay for mart@rogers.demon.co.uk

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mart@rogers.demon.co.uk
           id 951392992:11:25571:56; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 11:49:52 GMT
 Received: from relay3.mail.uk.psi.net ([154.32.109.6]) by punt-
1.mail.demon.net
            id aa1113582; 24 Feb 2000 11:42 GMT
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        by relay3.mail.uk.psi.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2)
        id 12NweW-0006Ny-00
        for mart@rogers.demon.co.uk; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 11:41:52 +0000
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        for <mart@rogers.demon.co.uk>; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 11:43:54 GMT
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(5.5.2650.21)
        id <1AYA9K3T>; Thu, 24 Feb 2000 11:36:57 -0000
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k>
 From: Martin Rogers <mhr@xxx.co.uk>
 To: "'mart@rogers.demon.co.uk'" <mart@rogers.demon.co.uk>
 Subject: test 11:42
 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 11:36:54 -0000
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 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21)
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regards
mart 
  
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Mart Hugh Rogers
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From: Mart Hugh Rogers <mart@rogers.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Windows 2000 - problems accessing demon mail
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