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Re: Windows 2000 - problems accessing demon mail

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From: Brian {Hamilton Kelly}
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 00:00
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In article <6ecebs4agimkt15shbrobedl1ea8ckqr9t@4ax.com>
           steve@sprill.demon.co.uk "Steve Cockrill" writes:

> Hmm SMTP client? I suppose that explains these messages I've been
> receiving...
> 
> <Quote>
> 

[snip standard message received from Demon's mail systems]

No, when it says SMTP server, it means it --- to receive mail using SMTP
*your* machine has to be running a server.  In this situation, the punt
machines run SMTP *client* programs, which attempt to deliver mail to
you.

You, apparently, are running an SMTP server (one is provided as standard
with WinNT, although totally misconfigured out of the box[1]; as the
original poster has discovered, a similar SMTP server is enabled under
Win2K).  You are also collecting your mail by POP3 (where *you* run the
client, and pop3.demon.co.uk is running a server).

If you start collecting using POP3, and in the meantime the SMTP delivery
mechanism delivers (and deletes) one or more items of mail, the POP3
server can no longer find the original message (and if it did would only
result in your seeing an apparent duplicate).  So that standard message
is sent to you instead.

> The easiest way to prevent this from occurring in the future
> is to not use POP3 and SMTP simultaneously.

Advice which it would be wise to heed.

Why are you running both SMTP server and POP3 client anyway?

[1] All proper operating systems are capable of running SMTP servers;
Microsoft has belatedly recognized this, but is too inexperienced to be
able to tell its users how to configure it.

-- 
Brian {Hamilton Kelly}                                         bhk@dsl.co.uk
    "If we could apply the power of electrical repulsion to preserve us from
    ever hearing anything more of them [Americans], I should think we had for
    once derived a benefit from science."    T L Peacock, /Gryll Grange/ 1861
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From: bhk@dsl.co.uk (Brian {Hamilton Kelly})
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 - problems accessing demon mail
Date: 2000/02/29
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