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Re: Comand line access to Demon

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From: David G. Bell
Date: Sun, 05 Nov 1995 00:00
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In article <815585138.14108@bluevan.demon.co.uk>
           accessctr-cffe@bbcnc.org.uk  writes:

> malcolm@demon.net (Malcolm Muir) wrote:
>
> >accessctr-cffe@bbcnc.org.uk wrote:
> >> Is it possible to get vt-100 terminal style command line access to a
> >> Demon account?
>
> >No, you do not have shell access (nor for that matter a Unix account
> >to shell access).
>
> >You can however telnet with vt-100 to other hosts that permit it.
>
> >> I'm trying to get a multi player DOS game called Confirmed Kill to run
> >> and it needs this access method.  Any help appreciated.  Sorry if this
> >> is off topic.
>
> >It sounds like you should be able to telnet to the server hosting this
> >game.

> Thanks for the advice, but this is a DOS app, how can it access my
> SLIP connection?

I've seen discussion of Confirmed Kill before -- I think you are on the
wrong track here.

The Confirmed Kill software running on the DOS machine uses the same
sort of serial connection as a terminal program.

The Unix shell account is running a program which converts the terminal
input/output to TCP/IP, which goes to the game server.

This awkward-looking method is a semi-standard that allows a shell
account user to do things such as telnet and ftp direct from his local
machine.  I think there is also a web browser, if I recall my Linux
CD-ROMs properly.  This overcomes the problems of finding file storage
on the machine providing the shell account until a file can be
transferred over the serial link.

AFAIK the only practical solution is to have two computers.  One, a 386
or better, runs Linux and connects to Demon.  The second runs Confirmed
Kill while connected by a null-modem cable to a shell account on the
first.

Maybe somebody on comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.flight-sim has a better answer
-- it would be nice if there were a version of CK that supported SLIP
directly, but I suspect that the PC architecture makes this difficult.

Running as a DOS app direct to a SLIP connection requires a packet
driver -- KA9Q can't support external programs.  I believe there is some
stuff on Simtel for this.  However, this all takes limited DOS memory
which the game will also need. (This is one of the little-known limits
on the performance of Windows 3.x -- DOS memory has special uses)

--
David G. Bell -- Farmer, SF Fan, Filker, Furry, and Punslinger..

Never criticise a farmer with your mouth full.
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