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Re: Phone calls by TCPIP

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From: Ronald Wiplinger
Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 00:00
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In <3pu00i$o25@CUBoulder.Colorado.EDU>, kotsines@benji.Colorado.EDU (T) writes:
>In article <801188699snz@siberia.demon.co.uk>,
>Philip McNab  <philip@siberia.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>In article <3pqnr9$669@wpnext.wpine.com> carl@wpine.com "Carl Koppel" writes:
>>
>>> Check out http://cu-seeme.cornell.edu.  CU-SeeMe is public domain software
>>>  which 
>>> allows you to transmit both audio and video across the internet.
>>
>>This sounds to me like an abuse of internet bandwidth.  It's only
>>because the internet has no mechanism for billing for usage that 
>>products such as this have a niche.  If you use this sort of thing over 
>>a phone line you pay full whack, but if you use it over the 'net, there
>>appear to be no cost.
>>
>>This is false: there are no free lunches, and there is no free 
>>bandwidth -- someone, somewhere is paying for it, and since this 
>>software will inevitably use a lot of bandwidth, someone is paying a lot.
>>
>>Using the net as a way of avoiding paying for bandwidth like this
>>seems like a really good way to hasten the arrival of some sort of
>>pricing mechanism.
>>
>>In the meantime, I want to keep on using the 'net for data, and I hope
>>that Demon bans its customers from using this software -- so that there
>>is some capacity left for the rest of us.
>>
>
>I think it is good that most people do not have this attitude or the net would
>never advance.  'Bandwidth-wasting' programs of today will be commonplace
>tomorrow.  Sooner or later, bandwidth WILL be so cheap that its cost will be
>insignificant.  I say, use all you can!
>
>-tk


Maybe you guys just pay a monthly flat fee, but I have to pay for each
MB traffic, that means in both directions. I watch new 
products but I will certainly not be able to use it, since video 
conferencing would cost me more than a regular phone call (with a sony
camcorder adapter).


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From: ronald@trace.com.tw (Ronald Wiplinger)
Subject: Re: Phone calls by TCPIP
Date: 1995/05/24
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