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Re: Phone calls by TCPIP

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From: Ax Man
Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 00:00
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In <3pu00i$o25@CUBoulder.Colorado.EDU>, kotsines@benji.Colorado.EDU (T) writes:
:In article <801188699snz@siberia.demon.co.uk:,
:Philip McNab  <philip@siberia.demon.co.uk: wrote:
::In article <3pqnr9$669@wpnext.wpine.com: carl@wpine.com "Carl Koppel" writes:
::
::: Check out http://cu-seeme.cornell.edu.  CU-SeeMe is public domain software
:::  which 
::: allows you to transmit both audio and video across the internet.
::
::This sounds to me like an abuse of internet bandwidth.  It's only
::because the internet has no mechanism for billing for usage that 
::products such as this have a niche.  If you use this sort of thing over 
::a phone line you pay full whack, but if you use it over the 'net, there
::appear to be no cost.
::
::This is false: there are no free lunches, and there is no free 
::bandwidth -- someone, somewhere is paying for it, and since this 
::software will inevitably use a lot of bandwidth, someone is paying a lot.
::
::Using the net as a way of avoiding paying for bandwidth like this
::seems like a really good way to hasten the arrival of some sort of
::pricing mechanism.
::
::In the meantime, I want to keep on using the 'net for data, and I hope
::that Demon bans its customers from using this software -- so that there
::is some capacity left for the rest of us.
::
:
:I think it is good that most people do not have this attitude or the net would
:never advance.  'Bandwidth-wasting' programs of today will be commonplace
:tomorrow.  Sooner or later, bandwidth WILL be so cheap that its cost will be
:insignificant.  I say, use all you can!
:
:-tk

Well, you always want more, so when internet telephony is commonplace and
it doesn't overload the bandwidth, people will want to play flight simulators
over the Net, then they'll want 50 channel simultaneous HDTV in Full Screen, etc...

I say, don't be so optimistic about the cost of bandwidth. But so far ....
  If it aint' broke, don't fix it !!  :-)

However what I see in the future, is global companies like IBM, Sprint, MCI,
AT&T, and other "fiberobtic cariers" having different prices for connection to them.
When a small provider or a company, will want to get a T3 line for the Net,
they will pay the "fiberoptic company" in proportion to the bandwidth, and
then limit the bandwith to their customers to fit in their ceiling.

This is exacly why it costs more to use some On-Line services more during
peak time, and why faster modems also result it higher charges.

So my vertict is, Use the bandwidth. If it gets too expencive for someone, the'll
charge you more.


Dan Akselrod
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From: danax@interport.net  (Ax Man)
Subject: Re: Phone calls by TCPIP
Date: 1995/05/24
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