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	- hi; in article, <20120925.1108.933182snz@twoplaces.co.uk>
	  simon@twoplaces.co.uk "Simon Turner" reported & commented:
>	                ppint. at pplay" wrote:
>>	  simon@twoplaces.co.uk "Simon Turner" pondered & pronounced:
>> >[This is going to be rather long: apologies in advance.]
>> [still fairly long...]
>> >	                "ppint. at pplay" wrote:
>> >>	   simon@twoplaces.co.uk "Simon Turner" commented & explained:
>> >>>	                "ppint. at pplay" wrote:
>> >>>>	(following article, <20120914.2213.12090153snz@i-m-t.demon.co.uk>,
>> >>>>	                  in which i wrote):
>> 
>[big snip]
>> >>>[...] (b) implement Pete's ESMTP SIZE restrictions for
>> >>>POP3 as well, which would allow you to set a size threshold above which
>> >>>messages wouldn't be downloaded.
[]
>After a suggestion from Pete, I think it needs three settings for what
>to do with large messages: 0 = leave on server; 1 = delete and send DSN
>to sender to explain; 2 = delete without informing sender.  Default = 0.

	- sounds good;
[]
>> >>    - nor, when an ftp session ends (which it used to, sort of -
>> >>    formerly, it'd re-set to another (the next-highest numbered,
>> >>    iirc) session.
>> >Are you sure KA9Q ever did this (resetting the "active session" marker
>> >to the next-highest-numbered session when the currently active session
>> >ended)?  The GremNOS code certainly doesn't behave that way, although
>> >it's possible to persuade yourself that it does (I managed to persuade
>> >myself thus earlier, before I'd understood how it really works).
>>	- no, gremnosceri haven't - leastways, not so far as i can
>>	recall since your first pplt (& the lite & large from which
>>	it was derived); but yes, i'm sure - 216d and other versions
>>	i've used since getting my very first ever (tinypcclone) 386
>>	i-m-t with its massive 42MB hard drive - it was a noticeable
>>	difference to which i took a little time to adjust, so "i'm
>>	certain (but i suppose i could, just about, be wrong)".
>
>Very odd; I've checked the source for 2.16d and it works exactly the
>same way as GremNOS, i.e. the "current session" info passed to commands
>like "record" is the "most recently escaped from" session, which is
>initially set to the main command session.  If the "most most recently
>escaped from" session ends, the marker is reset to nothing, and remains
>that way until next time you use F10.

	- so what on - or off - earth have i - or my computer(s) - been
	doing ?

	- the first two or three sessions were f status@gate, f report@
	gate & f i-m-t+@post, added at the end of autoexec.net, the fourth
	being ftp homepages, by keyboard; on quit<enter>-ing the completed
	ftp session, and <enter>-ing once more (as directed on-screen), to
	return to the net>, i used not to have to select an open session
	by s <1-3>: just <enter> gave the third (long finger) session.

	- hmmm. it might've been something removed/lost when richard gave
	us the y2k- & other-fixes version of the KA9Q/dis 'net suite (or
	was it initially only the fixed KA9Q/net.exe ?  - i think it was
	the full suite...); i moved over (? or back to*) a y2k-fixed grem-
	nos that i think i read incorporated his fixes and updates pretty
	soon after, so i mightn't've noticed the change, if it happened
	then.

	(* i _think_ i was still using the un-y2k-fixed KA9Q/net.exe from
	the demon 'net suite until then, but i'm no longer on that pc and
	its hard drive is one of the several somewhere downstairs.)

	(i'm _fairly_ sure i'm not/was not hallucinating the behaviour...)

>However, as discussed, there's no reason why it should remain that way!

	- sounds promising, very promising;-)

>>	- i think the last-session marker resetting to the main command
>>	screen session, and/or the main command screen session being one
>>	of the options selectable with the "s(ession)" command - "s0" ?
>>	"main command screen" or "net> prompt" ?, and capable of having
>>	the last session marker associated with it, would be the most
>>	flexible & useful.
>
>I definitely think that resetting the last-session marker to the command
>screen, rather than nothing, when the current last-session ends would be
>a Good Thing.  I'm still thinking about whether making "s 0" return you
>to the main command screen would be useful (if you can type "s 0",
>you're already there!); perhaps it might be useful in scripts in a way I
>haven't thought of yet.

	- *g*  - i was only thinking that, if it required a session no.
	in order to be selectable via the last session left marker, and
	that were the simplest and most concise method of achieving the
	desired objective, session no. 0 would appear always to be avail-
	able and possess the minor advantage of never needing to respond
	to the "s<enter>" poll of current active sessions - unless it be
	considered desirable that one could find out what had been left
	(invisibly) running, but had been completely forgotten about ?

>>	(but, not knowing how much work it might involve, i can't say it
>>	is a particularly high priority - after all, it hasn't proved to
>>	be an essential fix in over two and a half decades :-) )
>
>True, until I wanted you to record the POP3 trace stuff and you couldn't...

	- *g*  - though this _was_ workable-around...

	- love, a ppint. off to replace my pop3 password with one i don't
	mind sharing - yup, it's happened again, and you did say you'd like
	the chance to find out what was causing the 'TOP N 0' failed: ''
	(after pop3 sent: top 30, and pop3 receive failed: ???) to appear.

	- and, wonder of wonders, it's not raining! 

	- and there's this weird, yellowy light reflecting off the leaves
	and things!

	[drop the "v", and change the "f" to a "g", to email or cc.]
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