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On Monday, in article
     <20120723.1659.929275snz@twoplaces.co.uk>
     simon@twoplaces.co.uk "Simon Turner" wrote:

> On Monday, in article
>      <20120723.1547.519snz@cj4386.demon.co.uk>
>      colin@cj4386.demon.co.uk "colin may" wrote:
>
> > On Monday, in article
> >      <20120723.1320.929266snz@twoplaces.co.uk>
> >      simon@twoplaces.co.uk "Simon Turner" wrote:
> >
> > > On Sunday, in article <uSqYShPLqHDQFAnU@highwayman.com>
> > >      richard@highwayman.com "Richard Clayton" wrote:
> > >
> > > > In article <20120721.0929.494snz@cj4386.demon.co.uk>, colin may
> > > > <colin@cj4386.demon.co.uk> writes
> > > >
> > > > >I've received notice of mail migration. Can KA9Q be configured to
> > > > >work with this? Any advice will be appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > if you have a version of KA9Q that can handle POP3 then that can be
> > > > configured to work ...
> > >
> > > From what I've heard on demon.service, the new platform may require
> > > STARTTLS encryption for POP3, which would render my POP3-enabled GremNOS
> > > unusable without quite a lot of extra work.  I'll find out for sure on
> > > Wednesday afternoon, which is when I'm being migrated... 8-(
> > >
> >
> > Thanks for all the responses. I was supposed to be migrated at 1pm
> > today.  How would I know?
>
> I'm not quite sure what question you're asking, so I'll have a bash at
> answering two variants.  Sorry this is rather long; I hope one of them
> is what you wanted!
>
> Q1. How would I know whether I've been migrated or not?
>
> A1. After migration, all mail will go to the new platform and not to the
>     old one.  So, arrange for some mail to be sent to you and see if it
>     arrives: if so, you haven't been migrated yet; if not, you have.
>     Note that the new platform uses new host names for mail sending
>     (SMTP) and collection (OPP3): the old one used post.dcu for sending
>     and pop3.dcu for collection; the new one uses smtp.dcu for sending
>     and mail.dcu for collection.
>
>     Note that your KA9Q setup may spot the attempt to send mail to
>     yourself and deliver it locally instead of going via demon; if you
>     like, I can send you a test message instead.  Let me know.
>
>     If you've recently been receiving these lovely virus-laden booking
>     confirmation messages, you may already have rather a lot of them
>     waiting for you: after only getting 10-20 per day on average for
>     several weeks, I seem to have 100+ waiting for me at the moment!  I
>     would like to think that the new platform's "improved" antispam
>     stuff would block these, but report in demon.service don't sound all
>     that encouraging...
>
>
> Q2. How would I know whether KA9Q-type POP3 collection will work or not?
>
> A2. Try a normal text (i.e. unencrypted) POP3 session to the new server.
>     Note that this relies on you being able to type things accurately to
>     a live POP3 telnet session (correcting errors with backspace may not
>     work as you expect), so only do it if you're reasonably confident
>     that you can type things accurately first time.  The test would be
>     more useful if there is some mail waiting for you (so do the above
>     test first and make sure it doesn't get sent to you by the old
>     system, meaning that it should be waiting for you on the new one).
>
>     Your migration mail should tell you the name of the default mailbox
>     they have set up for you (administrator@yourhost.demon.co.uk, where
>     I presume yourhost will be cj4386) and its password (indicated by
>     stars in the sample below).
>
>     Run "telnet mail.demon.co.uk 110" and you should get a dialogue with
>     the new POP3 server somewhat like this ("<-" means stuff the server
>     sends to you, "->" means stuff you send to it by typing and pressing
>     return -- note that the commands I sent were in capitals, e.g. USER
>     rather than user, but you can use lowercase if you prefer):
>
>       <- +OK The Microsoft Exchange POP3 service is ready.
>       -> USER administrator@********.demon.co.uk
>       <- +OK
>       -> PASS ********
>       <- +OK User successfully logged on.
>       -> STAT
>       <- +OK 0 0
>
>     If this returns something more like "+OK 5 15354", it means there
>     are 5 messages in your mailbox, with combined size 15354 bytes.  If
>     so, go on to try some other commands like LIST and TOP as shown
>     here:
>
>       -> LIST
>       <- +OK 5 15354
>       <- [list of message numbers and lengths, one per line]
>       <- .
>       -> TOP 1 5
>       <-
>       <- +OK
>       <- [message header]
>       <-
>       <- [first 5 lines of message body]
>       <- .
>
>     No matter what happens, you should send the QUIT command to end the
>     telnet session (in fact, this can be typed at almost any point to
>     end the session cleanly if you're not confident about continuing):
>
>       -> QUIT
>       <- +OK Microsoft Exchange Server 2010 POP3 server signing off.
>
>     Let us know how you get on; or if you're not sure about doing this
>     sort of stuff, and can manage without your mail for a couple of
>     days, wait until Wednesday afternoon and I'll run the tests and
>     report back to the group.
>
>     As you may have guessed, I was able to have an unencrypted
>     conversation with the new server, but I haven't been migrated yet so
>     I don't know if that would remain the case after migration.  (I also
>     don't know whether connecting via a Demon IP address would make a
>     difference; my test was from a non-Demon host.)
>
> If the new platform will accept plain unenecrypted POP3 for mail
> collection, I've got a version of GremNOS with POP3 collection
> integrated in to the SMTP system that may work for you...
>

High Simon,

Bit over my head, but I tried the "telnet mail.demon.co.uk 110" it came
back with the message "pop3 microsoft exchange ready ok" typing anyhing after
this sends back the message "error protocol 19". I tried to email you, no go.
Must have been migrated. Version of KA9Q is gremnos v0.3d.


Colin