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- hi; in dipspc article, <1202047503snz@nospam.demon.co.uk>,
              pete@nospam.demon.co.uk explained:
>    v$af$ppint@i-m-t.demon.co.uk "ppint. at pplay" writes:
>>         pete@nospam.demon.co.uk reminisced fondly:
>>>
>>>As I'm sure I recall the late Kenneth Williams once saying:
>>>   "Quiet in here, innit?"
>>>but that just reveals my age...
>>	- or a degree of infamy, perhaps...
>
>Indeed -- it seems that most people seem to have it infamy...

	- hmmm?  - certainly not dipsppcublicly, leastways not
	so far as has been noticeable - lurkio dilates you in
	email, perhaps?
>
>>>No matter; the reason for this post is to find out if (a) anyone
>>>else is still here
>>         - possibly...
>
>Excellent!  With Ian's (ex-fairmyle) post that makes three!

	- "And Baby Makes Three" - ?
>
>>>and (b) if so, they have any experience of using GremNOS with news
>>>servers other than the struggling one at Demon Towers.
[>>]
>>>I've been thinking for ages of subscribing to news.individual.net 
>>>and the recent (and it would seem ongoing) problems with news.dcu 
>>>have accelerated that thought.  As this is a subscribed service, 
>>>I'm assuming there will be some sort of login/authentication 
>>>required -- is this easily configurable in GremNOS?
>>>
>>>Any hints/tips/experiences gratefully accepted.
>>>
>>	- you do need to request newnews when you register on their
>>	wwwbsite (after is perhaps possible),
>
>Hmmm -- no mention of that when I looked before (and indeed after) 
>registering, but I've subsequently emailed them to check that they 
>support NEWNEWS and for any config changes I might need to make 
>here.
>
>>	and need to pay ten euros by plastic;
>
>That sum will not break the bank :-)
>
>>	you need to create a new bloc in nntp.dat of froups you wish
>>	to collect thence under a line detailing the news server and
>>	the date and time you last completed a download of news from
>>	them: see and save your current nntp.dat elsewhere, for the
>>	format.
>
>No problem there; I used to have an entry there for dfn-cis or 
>whatever it was called way back then...
>
>>	- you can then switch to this server at the net prompt by
>>	typing nntp add <$foo> <interval><enter> where <$foo> is
>>	the fqdn of the server, <interval> the number of seconds
>>	between attempts to download - and to then start download-
>>	ing by nntp kick<enter> - nntp & kick may be abbreviated
>>	to n & k respectiwiggly; switch back to demon's server with
>>	nntp add news.demon.co.uk <interval><enter> or to a thrid
>>	newsserver by specifying its fqdn instead (having previously
>>	fettled an nntp.dat bloc peculiar to it).
>>	     an interval of 500 worked well enough for me, but might
>>	prove a trifle enthusiastic, were you interested solely in
>>	the doings of denetzens of dipspc...
>
>I have no probs with the standard syntax -- I was wondering more 
>about authentication.  Looking through the GremNOS source (which 
>I suppose I should have done before) it seems like the addserver 
>command ought to be something like:
>
>    nntp addserver <$foo> <interval> user <username> <password>
>
>(or abbreviated as required). 

	- ah; might you care to report back upon the efficacy of
	this, should "nin" prove to require authentication every
	time you ask it for newnews?

	- the only alternative newsservers this ppint. has used
	required the newsserveradmin to've placed *@i-m-t.dcu on
	their system as authorised to connect to download news,
	but didn't require a password from me when connecting.
>
>[..]
>>	- you can, of course, set news.individual.net (if this be
>>	the fqdn) as your default newsserver and cease to call on
>>	news.demon.co.uk's services completely; pcelm/oak's .rc and
>>	individual username.rc in ~\spool\news\ and the nntp add-
>>	server line in your ~\autoexec.net will need modification;
>
>That is indeed Plan A; I once made the mistake of running DIS to 
>"Maintain newsgroups"

	- "woops!"

>and it made a real hash of my then nntp.dat with more than one
>newsserver entry.

	- yes; it does that. should you set nin as your default
	newsserver in DIS, i presume it would then junk all but
	the nntp.dat entry for nin - but i didn't try doing this
	with either of the alternate newsservers i used to poll.

>It's the only time I ever run DIS, as when running addgroup/
>rmgroup etc. manually I always forget to edit at least one of
>the important files :-(

	- *g*  - i found it easier to save my modified nntp.dat,
	under a sufficiently differentiated name, run DIS, replace
	the old demon.news bloc in the saved file with that from
	the new nntp.dat, and then over-write this.
>
>>	- n.b. other newsservers may well *not* provide a news2mail
>>	gateway, so either retain the demon gateway in your news.rc
>>	(etc.), or switch to "direct posting" in snews (john wash.)
>>	(and others?).
>
>Others.  GremNOS has supported direct posting for quite a while, 
>and I've knocked together a little prog that reformats and 
>relocates outgoing Snews articles ready for posting.

	- with news's being from time to time awol of late, i've
	been switching to & fro between direct posting and using
	the mail2news gateway, which has at least let me post my
	tuppenceworths.
>
>>	- hth, hand - tdwsc!
>
>It does, and I will, and ???
>
	- one ought, it does - and it shall!

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