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"Ian" <sum1@flashy.nut> wrote in message
news:20080202.1356.1203snz@flashy.nut...
> pete@nospam.demon.co.uk wrote:
>
> >
> > I've been thinking for ages of subscribing to news.individual.net
> > and the recent (and it would seem ongoing) problems with news.dcu
> > have accelerated that thought.  As this is a subscribed service,
> > I'm assuming there will be some sort of login/authentication
> > required -- is this easily configurable in GremNOS?

Yes last I looked at it direct posting supported.

> > Any hints/tips/experiences gratefully accepted.
> >
> > Pete
>
> I used that server when it was free, with YAN.EXE (which I still use),
> and it was first class.
> I don't recall any difficulty in setting up my files for it, once I'd been
> given an authentication string.
> I believe there is a website where you can join and pay the sub, but I
> don't have it I'm afraid.
>
> I may be suffering a terminal problem myself before long, as my ISP's
> smtp server is - or has been -  being altered in some way to prevent
> users' email addresses  and passwords being stolen when using smtp.

Sounds terminal to me...

> This is part of the e-mail sent to me  by the ISP whenever I send an
> e-mail with my old setttings:
> -       ===========
> .....
>         Make the Changes Automatically: To automatically make the required
> changes to Outlook Express, use the AT&T Self Support Tool.

Oh god AT&T, I had one customer who had problems with DNS at one stage with
them that transpired to be flaky UK servers, on contacting support for the
DNS numbers
(as at that time they did not provide this  by DHCP except broken ones),
their support
person said -

    "You only need DNS for webpages, not for email"

Wrong on so many counts.

>           a.. If you already have the AT&T Self Support Tool installed on
> your computer, simply select Cannot send/receive email from the Self
> Support Tool Main Interface to run an email settings check. When prompted
> to change your email settings, select Yes.

Load a setup programme to screw up your system and add branding where
possible in my experience for eah mailbox and multiple mailboxes in OE
can get screwed up.

......

>         Make the Changes Manually: To manually make the required setting
> changes in Outlook and Outlook Express, please view the detailed
> instructions here.
>
>         Alternatively, you may take the following steps to change the
> settings on your desktop or mobile email client program:
>           1.. Open your email client program.
>           2.. Locate the email account settings for your particular
client.
>           3.. Change the POP server to pop.att.yahoo.com
>           4.. Change the SMTP server to smtp.att.yahoo.com.

Yet another ISP offloading their email to another provider to do it for them
as people ONLY use Outlook Express!

Other ISPs KNOWN  who do this

        BT (uses BT/Yahoo services)    - personally the merger of failing
sheep
                                                            or herding cats

        SKY  (use Google mail)        - hence the cheapness of the service

>           5.. Check the option labeled Use an encrypted connection (SSL)
> and change the SMTP port to
>  465.6.. Check the option labeled Use an encrypted connection (SSL)
> and change the POP3 port to 995.

As far as I recall GremNos does not support SSL, others may be able to
verify this.
.....
> -===================
> The first bits,  about using a web tool are of no use to me.
> I have tried altering the AUTOEXEC.NET to conform with these settings,
> but I'm not too familiar with how that file works,  and rarely if ever do
> any major alterations beyond adding or removing servers and the like.
> The 'ssl'  and 'port' bits are especially puzzling me.  So far any
> changes I've tried have resulted in a failure of  smtp and a return to
> the old settings, to send my mail. Which gets me another automatic
> message from the ISP.

Stick to your old settings and look at changing ISP or use a cheap Linux/BSD
box as a mailserver.

> I need some expert advice on this,  which is not going to come from my
> ISP,  since they know nothing of DOS-based programs!

In my experience any phone company supplying internet services rarely
have people you can talk to who know what they are talking about.

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