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paul@pcserviceselectronics.co.uk wrote:

> "Ian" <sum1@flashy.nut> wrote in message
> news:20080202.1356.1203snz@flashy.nut...
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>
> Oh god AT&T, I had one customer who had problems with DNS at one stage with
> them that transpired to be flaky UK servers, on contacting support for the
> DNS numbers
> (as at that time they did not provide this  by DHCP except broken ones),
> their support
> person said -
>
>     "You only need DNS for webpages, not for email"
>
> Wrong on so many counts.
>
I've seen so many people,  on a set of n/groups for sbcglobal
(now at and t) telling of the useless "support" line that I don't even
consider calling them. They wouldn't even know that such a thing as DOS
exists.

> possible in my experience for eah mailbox and multiple mailboxes in OE
> can get screwed up.
>
It certainly won't do much for my old Demon DIS set of programs!
> ......
> >         Alternatively, you may take the following steps to change the
> > settings on your desktop or mobile email client program:
> >           1.. Open your email client program.
> >           2.. Locate the email account settings for your particular
> client.
> >           3.. Change the POP server to pop.att.yahoo.com
> >           4.. Change the SMTP server to smtp.att.yahoo.com.
>
> Yet another ISP offloading their email to another provider to do it for them
> as people ONLY use Outlook Express!
>
> Other ISPs KNOWN  who do this
>
>         BT (uses BT/Yahoo services)    - personally the merger of failing
> sheep
>                                                             or herding cats
>
>         SKY  (use Google mail)        - hence the cheapness of the service
>
When I first came here, there were a small number of local privately
owned  ISPs like fastlane.net, who were willing to offer help in setting
up my software to work with their servers. They've all long  gone, bought
up by bigger outfits who in turn  were eaten up by bigger fish, and now
I'm in the hands of the giant at and t.

> >           5.. Check the option labeled Use an encrypted connection (SSL)
> > and change the SMTP port to
> >  465.6.. Check the option labeled Use an encrypted connection (SSL)
> > and change the POP3 port to 995.
>
> As far as I recall GremNos does not support SSL, others may be able to
> verify this.
actually i'm using Ian Smith's version, YAN.eXE.  Far as I can see, there
is no mention of ssl in the aUTOEXEC.NET file, or anywhere else. So,I
think I've had it as far as converting to the new settings.



> Stick to your old settings and look at changing ISP or use a cheap Linux/BSD
> box as a mailserver.
>
I'll continue using my old settings and see how long it is till they
stop customers using the old "insecure" (as they call it) settings, then
they'll lose a customer.
Not sure if my screen reader/voice synthesizer would work with linnux.  I
do have a new Dell machine, which has Windows Vista on it, that I suppose
I could use but  I'd  need to buy and learn a new screen reader to work
on the Windows screens. Or maybe I'll just abandon the 'net altogether, as
it is a minor part of what I use the computer for anyway.
> > I need some expert advice on this,  which is not going to come from my
> > ISP,  since they know nothing of DOS-based programs!
>
> In my experience any phone company supplying internet services rarely
> have people you can talk to who know what they are talking about.
>
Yep, knowledgeable help from  a supplier of any kind is a thing of the
past, I fear.
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Ian