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Article #895Re: Demon's punts and SMTP
From: pete
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:03
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:03
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In article <1239440946snz@nospam.demon.co.uk> pete@nospam.demon.co.uk writes:
> It's been a bit quiet of late in here, but I'm hoping that
> Malcolm Muir and/or Richard Clayton might still be monitoring the
> group, out of curiosity if nothing else.
>
> GremNOS, and to a lesser extent Demon's ka9q/net, have provided
> minimal ESMTP support for years. Recently I have decided to
> enlarge that support (in GremNOS) for the ESMTP SIZE extension
> (rfc 1870) but find that I cannot make use of it as Demon's punts
> do not (apparently) support ESMTP for delivery; at least they do
> not advertise it with an opening EHLO.
>
> Sat Apr 11 08:47:54 2009 helo: "helo lon1-punt3-8.mail.demon.net"
>
> is an example of how they announce themselves. Inspection of the
> Received: headers seems to show that ESMTP is used as the mail
> passes through Demon's MTAs, except for the final hop from the
> punts to the user's SMTP server. Can this be changed?
>
> I've tried to "coax" the punts by advertising "ESMTP ready" in my
> sign on banner, but that makes no difference :( RFC 2821
> specifically forbids using any ESMTP server extensions unless the
> client uses EHLO, so unless this can be changed I'm stuffed.
>
> Are the punts truly incapable, or is this a config setting?
>
> Pete
>
> PS. One additional thing I've noticed is that if I reject mail
> with a "552 Message exceeds fixed maximum message size" after the
> DATA command, this message is not apparently relayed back to the
> sender in the DSN. Are the punts anaware of a 552 error?
>
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