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Article #28806Re: Is it right to eat animals?
From: LarryLook
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 22:30
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 22:30
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"Dutch" <not@home.com> wrote in message news:vRLai.11413$1i1.7419@pd7urf3no... > "LarryLook" <Larry@noemail.com> wrote >> >>> >>> Our lifestyles kill animals, lots of them, meat or not. You're pushing a >>> fallacy. Sure, but I'd rather kill very few than many. Especially if the few aren't as valuable. >> >> Sure, but if it where proven that on the average the person who's 30 lbs >> overweight is responsible for 4 times the number of deaths of animals >> (because he eats more), wouldn't it be more ethical to be of ideal body >> weight? > > Only if you measure morality by counting dead animals. I don't. How can you ignore the numbers as if they are irrelevent. Thats ridiculous. Sure the vegan may kill some by his lifestyle but if he kills less... > >> You seem to be saying it's impossible to live a lifestyle that involves >> killing less (and is thus more ethical) or that it's not a worthy goal. >> But it is a worthy goal. > > No, I'm saying that killing fewer animals is not directly and > unconditionally dependent on not consuming "animal products". That is the > vegan lie. But look at all that wasted meat. If there weren't meat eaters those cows (and all the collateral deaths) wouldn't have happened. >> The antivegetarians here are so brainwashed that they won't admit that >> wearing a fur coat made of many little animals is unethical since they >> feel "the synthetic coat causes more collateral deaths." This is really >> playing with the numbers. > > That's a strawman Larry. > >> What about people who use a lot of resources to hunt animals for sport >> (not food), or attend bullfights, etc. Where is your outrage? > > Different topic Larry. You can raise whichever issues you feel passionate > about, nobody is stopping you. > > >
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