Re: Is it right to eat animals?

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From: Dutch
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 05:14

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"LarryLook" <Larry@noemail.com> wrote in message 
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>> Not eating meat is not synonymous with not causing harm to animals. This 
>> is
>> the fundamental misconception of veganism.
>
> 5.7 million pound of beef recalled here:
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19145012/

Huh? What does recalled beef have to do with anything?

> If you add up all the collateral deaths (what are cows fed to fatten them 
> up before slaughter?) associated with this meat the numbers of deaths are 
> staggering.

So now that you place collateral deaths on YOUR side of the argument the 
numbers are suddenly staggering? You can't have it both ways Larry.

> But these deaths associated with the factory farmed meat industry are 
> virtually ignored here,

No they're not. There are collateral deaths associated with all crops, 
including animal feed.

> while the deaths associated with my carrots are fantastically exaggerated. 
> This is pure obfuscation!

You mean the numbers are not staggering anymore?

> And the newbie vegetarian comes here, who is doing a lot of good in 
> comparison with his prior diet, and gets pounced on by this "logic" - to 
> make him feel somehow guilty.

Why would he feel guilty Larry, unless he's doing something wrong?

> He can't be proud of his diet since Rick and Dutch won't let him be.  He's 
> been labeled sanctimonious without ever getting to know him.  How 
> outrageous!

Sanctimony is easy to spot Larrry.

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