🚀 go-pugleaf

[posted to demon.local, talk.abortion, aus.flame,alt.flame 
 with f'ups to demon.local]

The things that have been said about me in this group since I said I
was leaving have really sickened me.  I suspect that a lot of you have 
killfilled the threads that this stuff is in but I don't think that 
those who know what's going on can stomach it and must know that this 
madness must stop now.

I have been occassionally dipping into demon.local to see how things 
were going and then started reading it again from Sunday.  What is 
crazy is that whatever has been said about me here has been either to
blame me for problems elsewhere or in order to use me as a club to attack 
other people with.  This isn't about me at all; it's about one person's 
problems and others' malice to take advantage of a person's troubles by 
letting and encouraging him to attack me so that they can get at someone 
else, through me.  

Paul thinks I used him.  I think that Paul has deliberately manipulated 
the support of Richard, Steve and Iolo but I think that Iolo and others 
are knowingly exploiting the situation in order to attack keegan who
has the only valid complaint here.  Have you all gone insane?

It seems to me that a group, which apparently prides itself on certain 
rules of courtesy and thus aggressively and abusively tries to evict 
people because they have a fifth line in their signature, is tolerating 
totally unacceptable behaviour from a regular in his vicious defamations
of my character.

Various demon.local men have been named in connection with me and I see 
that two haven't written about the matter and that two others have both 
said that they have no complaint against me.  What disappoints me is that 
two of them continue to encourage the idea that something has being 
going on, by saying they have "had mail from [me]"   Sure, a lot of 
people have had mail from me.  Don't be duped into reading more into an
innocent situation because of context alone.

It has been suggested that I post a denial here.  My reaction to this 
is this: why the hell should I have to?  Since when was demon.local a 
court room?   This group is and never was a place to air personal 
grievances nor a place for such personal battles to take place.  I think
everyone knows that if I had responded to the false accusations, that we 
would never have seen the end of it.  I see no reason why I should have 
to give in to intimidation to answer to accustations, nor to explain or 
to justify my private life, which is really no one's business but my own 
and the people concerned, just as the personal lives of any of you is none 
of my business.

Only one person here seems to have a grievance with me and this is a
matter between him and me.  He has no right to call on past events at
which he was not present and which concerned other people, and then
accuse me of behaving badly when he really doesn't know what he is 
talking about.  My mail to various people, in which I have asked for 
an explanation of insults, requested evidence for certain claims, 
attempted to sort things out and offered explanations, has all gone 
unanswered.  What does this say about people who ignore the offers of 
sorting out alleged problems privately but who then continue to air 
them publically?  Where will they draw the line in order to get what 
they want? 

So, if anyone here has a personal grievance with me, I invite you to 
mail me about it and we can try to sort it out.  If you instead persist 
in attacking me publically or using me as a club in your pathetic battles 
with other people, then I truly despair of you.

Whatever you may think of me personally, I hope that some of you can find 
the courage to let those responsible know what you think about what they
are doing to demon.local.  This has to stop.  Other people and other 
groups are being hurt senselessly in a very serious way.


Paola