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In article <bv3hsc$8t8$1$830fa79f@news.demon.co.uk>, GlynP 
<demonnews@alternet.demon.co.uk> writes

>I'm thinking about going from ISDN to ADSL - I've just seen a reasonably
>priced router, the SAR130 on Solwise.
>
>But when I went into the Order on-line page

On the Demon site ?


> they were talking about a
>conversion charge of �80.

I couldn't get a figure out of Demon a couple of weeks ago.  Demon sent 
me to BT who sent me back to Demon !


> I wondered if that was for the SDU to ADSL
>conversion, or the ISDN to analogue conversion. If the latter I wondered why
>it was more than the �42.55 just quoted by Beaty.
>
>I'll get into gear and ring Demon to find out tomorrow, but thought one of
>you guys might have experience of this transition.

Am thinking of going the same way myself.

If you follow the link http://sod.ms, I think you'll find that A&A offer 
free IDSN to POTS/ADSL conversion, but their ADSL may cost more than 
Demon depending how much day time access you need.  Is it time to jump 
off the Demon ship ?

Anyway -  let us know what you find out.


Cheers, J/.
-- 
John Beardmore

In message <F$5hTBaNKZFAFwAW@wookie.demon.co.uk>, John Beardmore 
<wookie@wookie.demon.co.uk> writes
>In article <bv3hsc$8t8$1$830fa79f@news.demon.co.uk>, GlynP 
><demonnews@alternet.demon.co.uk> writes
>
>>I'm thinking about going from ISDN to ADSL - I've just seen a reasonably
>>priced router, the SAR130 on Solwise.
>>
>>But when I went into the Order on-line page
>
>On the Demon site ?
>
>
>> they were talking about a
>>conversion charge of �80.
>
>I couldn't get a figure out of Demon a couple of weeks ago.  Demon sent 
>me to BT who sent me back to Demon !
>
>
>> I wondered if that was for the SDU to ADSL
>>conversion, or the ISDN to analogue conversion. If the latter I wondered why
>>it was more than the �42.55 just quoted by Beaty.
>>
>>I'll get into gear and ring Demon to find out tomorrow, but thought one of
>>you guys might have experience of this transition.
>
>Am thinking of going the same way myself.
>
>If you follow the link http://sod.ms, I think you'll find that A&A 
>offer free IDSN to POTS/ADSL conversion, but their ADSL may cost more 
>than Demon depending how much day time access you need.  Is it time to 
>jump off the Demon ship ?
>
>Anyway -  let us know what you find out.
>
>
>Cheers, J/.
I converted from ISDN to ADSL on Demon a few months ago, no problem. 
Just make sure you ask for a managed conversion. It costs �50 to BT, but 
then an engineer does come round and check it out. If it doesn't work 
for any reason then you go back to ISDN.

-- 
Mark

"Mark Seaman" <spam@seaman.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:OCgH59NUvZFAFwiT@seaman.demon.co.uk...
> In message <F$5hTBaNKZFAFwAW@wookie.demon.co.uk>, John Beardmore
> <wookie@wookie.demon.co.uk> writes
> >In article <bv3hsc$8t8$1$830fa79f@news.demon.co.uk>, GlynP
> ><demonnews@alternet.demon.co.uk> writes
> >
> >>I'm thinking about going from ISDN to ADSL - I've just seen a reasonably
> >>priced router, the SAR130 on Solwise.
> >>
> >>But when I went into the Order on-line page
> >
> >On the Demon site ?
> >
> >
> >> they were talking about a
> >>conversion charge of �80.
> >
> >I couldn't get a figure out of Demon a couple of weeks ago.  Demon sent
> >me to BT who sent me back to Demon !
> >
> >
> >> I wondered if that was for the SDU to ADSL
> >>conversion, or the ISDN to analogue conversion. If the latter I wondered
why
> >>it was more than the �42.55 just quoted by Beaty.
> >>
> >>I'll get into gear and ring Demon to find out tomorrow, but thought one
of
> >>you guys might have experience of this transition.
> >
> >Am thinking of going the same way myself.
> >
> >If you follow the link http://sod.ms, I think you'll find that A&A
> >offer free IDSN to POTS/ADSL conversion, but their ADSL may cost more
> >than Demon depending how much day time access you need.  Is it time to
> >jump off the Demon ship ?
> >
> >Anyway -  let us know what you find out.
> >
> >
> >Cheers, J/.
> I converted from ISDN to ADSL on Demon a few months ago, no problem.
> Just make sure you ask for a managed conversion. It costs �50 to BT, but
> then an engineer does come round and check it out. If it doesn't work
> for any reason then you go back to ISDN.
>
> -- 
> Mark

Well, I've taken the plunge indeed, Router ordered, change ordered via
Demon. No �50 set-up fee, �80 conversion fee became �42.55 added to my next
Beaty bill. I'll come back with more info as and when.

What is the ADSL equivalent of this news group? I've always found the
technical/Barrybashing level of this group almost ideal.

Glyn

Ah, well that is the conversion process done. It was all completed on the
5th, so it took 10 days in all and it went very smoothly. Now I'm just
trying to get BT to make the last changes to my account (to convert from
business to private) then I should get an updated bill and find out if I
have managed to save money along the way. Perhaps not this quarter, but I
expect to save quite a bit a month from now on.

Y'all have fun now.

Glyn

In article <c05de0$a4i$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk>, GlynP 
<demonnews@alternet.demon.co.uk> writes

>Ah, well that is the conversion process done. It was all completed on the
>5th, so it took 10 days in all and it went very smoothly. Now I'm just
>trying to get BT to make the last changes to my account (to convert from
>business to private) then I should get an updated bill and find out if I
>have managed to save money along the way. Perhaps not this quarter, but I
>expect to save quite a bit a month from now on.

Most reassuring !  I've placed the order and am living in hope !


Cheers, J/.
-- 
John Beardmore

Well - it took a while but I've just got the final bill in.

I didn't manage to save money this quarter (moving from the full 24hr
surftime deal to BB) but even with the cost of the router it was only a
little more. If I had bought a cheaper modem I might have broken even - if I
had timed it before half way through the quarter would have made quite a
difference too.

Next quarter the bill should be loads lower.

I'm very happy with the service so far.




"John Beardmore" <wookie@wookie.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:0YldauVMAtJAFwk0@wookie.demon.co.uk...
> In article <c05de0$a4i$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk>, GlynP
> <demonnews@alternet.demon.co.uk> writes
>
> >Ah, well that is the conversion process done. It was all completed on the
> >5th, so it took 10 days in all and it went very smoothly. Now I'm just
> >trying to get BT to make the last changes to my account (to convert from
> >business to private) then I should get an updated bill and find out if I
> >have managed to save money along the way. Perhaps not this quarter, but I
> >expect to save quite a bit a month from now on.
>
> Most reassuring !  I've placed the order and am living in hope !
>
>
> Cheers, J/.
> -- 
> John Beardmore

In article <c1o0r9$bb$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>, GlynP 
<demonnews@alternet.demon.co.uk> writes

>Well - it took a while but I've just got the final bill in.
>
>I didn't manage to save money this quarter (moving from the full 24hr
>surftime deal to BB) but even with the cost of the router it was only a
>little more. If I had bought a cheaper modem I might have broken even - if I
>had timed it before half way through the quarter would have made quite a
>difference too.
>
>Next quarter the bill should be loads lower.
>
>I'm very happy with the service so far.

Having less luck here.  Neither of out POTS lines are short enough for 
ADSL, and apparently the ISDN line can't be converted either for reasons 
unspecified.

But the post code is supposed to be good for ADSL, so if a new line is 
installed, there is some hope that it might work.

Unfortunately, Demon can't order new lines for you, and as far as I can 
tell from BT, the won't guarantee that any new line will support ADSL.

Have now ordered a new line via http://sod.ms/ who seem to be much more 
clued up and will undertake to install on a 'no ADSL, no fee' basis.

If it works, I guess that means I get a second ISP as a side effect. 
Don't know if I really want to change ISP.  I guess once I've got the 
line in I can change to Demon broadband if I want to.


Cheers, J/.
-- 
John Beardmore

"John Beardmore" <wookie@wookie.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:PAbT8ljQZ4QAFwby@wookie.demon.co.uk...
> In article <c1o0r9$bb$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>, GlynP
> <demonnews@alternet.demon.co.uk> writes
>
> >Well - it took a while but I've just got the final bill in.
-- snip
> line in I can change to Demon broadband if I want to.
>
>
> Cheers, J/.
> -- 
> John Beardmore
Once upon a time, a long time ago, in a Gnomes Home, I bullied BT into
putting 20 pair into the house. It took fornicating ages, but rather than
decades old cable swinging from pole to pole like a demented gay who *liked*
noise I suddenly had nice clean copper routed fairly directly from the
exchange.

Now, that is useless nostagia. But I got it by going Business rate,
demanding 'Data Services' when I ordered the line and whinging about quality
(You sold me a line supposed to be V22 capable but (Yes, that long ago) it's
shite).

I suspect they have got wise to some of these things...

Good luck with sod.ms, let us know how you get on. I used to prefer Demon
for 'religious' reasons - now it's just 'cos I can't be arsed to change my
email address. I suspect that once the years contract is up I'll be doing a
quick compare and contrast.

Y'all have fugn gnow.

Glyn