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Alex Kiernan <alexk@demon.net> wrote:

> swroot@farm-direct.co.uk (swroot) writes:
> 
> > Alex Kiernan <alexk@demon.net> wrote:
> > 
> > > simon@twoplaces.co.uk (Simon Turner) writes:
> > > 
> > > > On Sunday, in article <nospam-1509022333330001@192.168.0.1>
> > > >      nospam@kenner.demon.co.uk "No Spam Today" wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > In article <B9AA96DE966813E78F@10.0.0.1>, Dave@zizek.demon.co.uk
> > > > > (Dave Wilson)
> > > > >  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > > I do use MT NewsWatcher for some online reading. On Saturday
> > > > > > (and I think Friday evening) I had a spate of reported
> > > > > > disconnects followed by reading as normal.  There was a blight
> > > > > > of them when opening a (large and busy) new newsgroup (is that
> > > > > > how you'd term it) from my subscribed list ie after the number
> > > > > > of articles had been obtained - MT would start to get the
> > > > > > headers and then report a disconnection.
> > > > > 
> > > > > this is very similar to the behaviour I am seeing. It is ongoing
> > > > > and disabling.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The results of XPAT searches in these busy groups are also full of
> > > > > garbage - i.e.  many more articles are reported as matching the
> > > > > subject line than actually should match.
> > > > > 
> > > > > something seems to have been corrupted on the news server.
> > > > 
> > > > I wonder if it might be unexpected characters, massively over-long
> > > > lines or similar in the server output?  Can anyone provide a
> > > > newsgroup name with NNTP commands etc. which cause these apparent
> > > > disconnections?  (Or indeed the group and XPAT command mentioned
> > > > above which produces apparently bogus output?)
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > One of the things I noticed in the group mentioned somewhere in this
> > > thread (uk.business.agriculture I think, but I can't seem to find the
> > > reference now) was that there were some non US ASCII characters
> > > embedded in the headers (and hence the overview) and some *very* long
> > > References headers.
> > 
> > That was me. Different thread, 14 Sept, right newsgroup. I haven't got
> > the NNTP commands, but c. 1712 on that day news.demon.co.uk flatly
> > refused to download articles or headers from that group to MacSoup on
> > three successive attempts. On each occasion headers and articles from
> > four other groups arrived without delay but the process stalled at
> > uk.business.agriculture. About 10-15 seconds MacSoup timed out,
> > reporting it had either 'lost connection to the server, or the server
> > was misbehaving' and refused to download any subsequent groups. It's
> > worth noting that I have rarely if ever seen that message from MacSoup
> > in >5 years downloading news. 
> > 
> 
> FWIW I've just tried it here, MacOS 9.2.2, MacSoup 2.4.6 and it pulled
> the whole overview for that group with no problems.

News.demon has downloaded all the groups to which I subscribe flawlessly
for me twice since I posted that message today, too. Have I said I don't
envy you your job? :-)

If you can let me know how to get more precise information I'm more than
happy to give you more detail if it happens again. 

regards
sarah


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