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Started by Dave Beames
Sat, 08 Jan 2000 00:00
HD block fail
Author: Dave Beames
Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 00:00
Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 00:00
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Not having a very good year so far ... 4000/060. 4Gb HD Yesterday, writing a 3Mb w-p file, I got a block error. Mig crashed, wouldn't reboot unless that partition was disabled, so couldn't run eg DiskSalv or Quarterback. (It crashed if I tried to mount the partition later). Eventually I managed to "Cancel" the bootup-time requester which says something like "Block error in WORK: Retry/Cancel", after which it booted with WORK mounted OK; so I ran Quarterback which sorted it out. 1st question: That requester shows for much less than a second, and the mouse isn't available *until* it shows. I needed a 12-year-old shootemup expert, but in the absence of such a being it took me about twenty tries before I succeeded in catching it. Does anyone know how to slow the thing down? I suppose it's still in ROM at that stage, so perhaps I've just got to struggle, but .... ? Today I tried again, and got a block failure again, though this time it didn't wreck anything except the file itself :-) It said "Block No 1089826", same as yesterday. I want to put this in as a Bad Block, but HDToolBox doesn't care about block numbers, it wants Cylinder, Head, Sector OR Bytes from Index. 2nd question: I hate admitting such dismal ignorance, but please, someone, how do I work out the figures that HDToolBox wants? FWIW, the mountlist which I keep for emergencies tells me that the drive has 945 blocks per track, 1 surface (eh?). Does that help? 1089826/945 = 1153, which is a feasible track or cyl number for this partition, with remainder 241 -- is that the sector? Is that how to do it? What about the other stuff that HDTB wants? And why can't these people use the same terminology? Is a block the same thing as a sector? I can't find anywhere where it says so. I tried running HDToolBox's "Verify Data on Drive", hoping that it would pick the duff block up for me, but it found no problems. For the time being I've renamed the broken (and unreadable) file to BADBLOCK and left it sitting there, which is a temporary cure, but it's a tad wasteful at 3Mb :-) Any advice will be very welcome. DaveB
Re: HD block fail
Author: Dave Beames
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 00:00
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 00:00
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Dave Sparks wrote: > >>>>> "DB" == Dave Beames <dave@beames.demon.co.uk> writes: > DB> Today I tried again, and got a block failure again, though this time > DB> it didn't wreck anything except the file itself :-) > > DB> It said "Block No 1089826", same as yesterday. > > DB> I want to put this in as a Bad Block, but HDToolBox doesn't care > DB> about block numbers, it wants Cylinder, Head, Sector OR Bytes from > DB> Index. > > DB> 2nd question: I hate admitting such dismal ignorance, but please, > DB> someone, how do I work out the figures that HDToolBox wants? > > DB> FWIW, the mountlist which I keep for emergencies tells me that the > DB> drive has 945 blocks per track, 1 surface (eh?). Does that help? > > DB> 1089826/945 = 1153, which is a feasible track or cyl number for this > DB> partition, with remainder 241 -- is that the sector? Is that how to > DB> do it? What about the other stuff that HDTB wants? > You'd get more reliable information from HDToolBox itself. 'Change > Drive Type', 'Edit Old ...' will display Cylinders, Heads and > Blocks per Track. Be sure to Cancel this dialog (I'm sure I > didn't need to tell you that, but someone else may be listening). I got around to that today :-) It tells me 15 heads (that's more sensible than 1) and 63 bl/track. On that basis, am I right in thinking that cylinder 1153 is correct, but that the remainder of 241 blocks means head 3, sector 52 ? > Ignore the 'Bytes from Index'. Thank you :-) > DB> Any advice will be very welcome. > > From my own experience, I'd say your drive has but a short time to > live. Unless it's still within its warranty period, you should > think about finding money for a new one (quickly). Dave, *don't* say that :-((( I only bought this bloody thing last May when my *previous* 4Gb drive died. What do I have to do to get a drive that stays working? The first was a Seagate, which lasted about 6 months, this is a Fujitsu. > How good is your backup/recovery system? Ahem ... <grin> My *really* important stuff is safe (?) on SyQuest, but the rest .... Cheers ... DaveB
Re: HD block fail
Author: Dave Beames
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 00:00
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 00:00
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Dave Sparks (Dave.Sparks.doesnt-want-junk-mail.$@sisyphus.demon.co.uk) wrote: > >>>>> "DB" == Dave Beames <dave@beames.demon.co.uk> writes: > DB> I got around to that today :-) It tells me 15 heads (that's more > DB> sensible than 1) and 63 bl/track. > > DB> On that basis, am I right in thinking that cylinder 1153 is correct, > DB> but that the remainder of 241 blocks means head 3, sector 52 ? > > Probably. I'm afraid I don't know whether track numbers start > from 0 (as I'd expect) or from 1. My Workbench manual says "see > the Hard Drive User's Guide" which I don't have. I have a copy. Would you be totally astonished to learn that it doesn't mention such boring minor details? No, I thought not :-) You aren't missing much -- it tells us how to use HDToolBox and HDBackUp, and that's about it. Well, I shall suck it and see. Manana. > I suggest you locate your receipt, and contact your supplier to find > out how to claim. Mmm. I have a nasty feeling that they went bump straight after Xmas. The shop is closed and empty ... :-( I shall investigate tomorrow. Thanks for the suggestions Cheers ... DaveB
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