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Ben Lovejoy <ben@lovejoy.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> real-address-in-sig@rhu.barb.foobar (Rebecca and Rowland) wrote:
> 
> Well done. :-)

<appreciative noises>

> >Any thoughts from anyone?
> 
> Three:

Aha!  Thanks!

> >Contributions are welcome from people who:
> >use Macs; and live, work, study, or mean to visit the UK.
> 
> The reason I don't take US newsgroups is that the volume of messages is
> too high.

Ditto.  I was thinking that if we can avoid cross-posting to
comp.sys.mac.*, then the volume of postings from outside the UK should
be pretty minimal.

>I'd therefore like to see the above tightened up to simply say
> messages from those currently resident in the UK.

I thought of that, but what about *geniune* people currently resident
outside the UK?  UK residents currently working abroad and things like
that?

How about changing it to `UK residents'?   That covers (without being
explicit about it) people currently living here, or with the right to
live here:

uk.comp.sys.mac is for the discussion of issues relating to Apple's 
Macintosh computers (Macs).  Contributions are welcome from people who:
use Macs; and are UK residents.

> >Commercial advertising is unwelcome, although a company reference in a
> >signature not exceeding four lines is acceptable.
> 
> I appreciate the idea of a sig-length limit, but the experience in
> demon.local seems to suggest that this is counter-productive, sig wars
> taking up far more bandwidth than any sig abuse. Or, at times, any other
> messages ...

There is that, hence the lack of a blanket ban on sigs longer than 4
lines; this 4-line limit applies *only* to commercial sigs.

> >and are also: essential for some UK Mac users, 
> >important for many UK Mac users, or useful for all UK Mac users.
> 
> I'd also like to see this loosened. 'May be helpful to other Mac users'
> would be sufficient for me. A lot of postings to demon.tech.mac don't meet
> the above criteria but I'm nonetheless pleased that they're there. It's
> impossible to predict what snippit of info or advice may prove useful in
> the future, and one more than one occasion a very situation-specific
> comment has been irrelevant to me at the time but very handy later.

Hmm...  I think I see what you mean.  How about:

Announcements that are of direct and specific relevance to UK Mac 
users are welcome provided that they are specific to the UK but not 
specific to one ISP; and are likely to be helpful to other UK Mac users.
Routine commercial announcements are unwelcome.

> However, I'd be happy to support the proposal in either original or
> modified form.

Oh good :-)

I've come across another thing to tack onto the charter to make the bit
about binaries exclude HTML and so on:

With the exception of PGP signatures, the posting of binaries or other
encoded data files is not permitted.  All postings must be in plain
text; HTML and other forms of formatting markup are excluded as if they
were binaries.  Pointers to relevant external information sources (Web
or FTP urls, for example) are welcome.

Any more thoughts anyone?

Rowland.


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