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adrian mason <ade@craftmcr.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Ive just been given an old SE 20m HD 2m Ram  sys 6.0.1 and I want to try to
> run sys 7 and clarisworks plus a network to a LC475
> Any body rate my chances?

Very good.  Claris Works 4 and 5 won't work on a 68000 Mac; V1 will.

> Can you tell me whether an se will run sys7

Yep.  See links below for a source.  Even if you're going to stick with
System 6, getting System 6.0.8 is not a bad idea.  I can send you some
stuff on how to convert the net-available US 6.0.8 into something that
looks like B-6.0.8 - do make sure you keep a backup of your current OS.

> Will I need more ram?

`Need' is a tricky word - 2MB is just about enough (Sys 7 takes about
1200K on its own), but you'll appreciate the full 4MB if you want to do
something other than run MacPaint.

A screensave like Basic Black isn't a bad idea - these old screens do
actually benefit and Basic Black is *very* small.

> or shall I try to run C/wks under sys 6

Dunno if that'll work - worth a go, though.

> Any help or pointers to info sources would be apreciated

Ah, now you've come to the right place for that...

First stop is the Classic Macs mailing list - a moderated digest arrives
once or twice a week:

To subscribe to Classic Macs,

send e-mail to <Majordomo@hitznet.com>. In the body of the message write

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You will be added within a day.

The Classic Macs Archives are found at:

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Then there's this lot:

http://www.edprint.demon.co.uk/se/index.html               Mac SE stuff
http://www.eden.com/~arena/jagshouse/jagshouseone.html      Jag's house
http://www.walli.uwasa.fi/~mhaveri/68000.txt                68k mac FAQ
http://walli.walli.uwasa.fi/~mhaveri/68000.txt
http://www.walli.uwasa.fi/~mhaveri/mac-internet-faq.txt
<http://www.mactimes.com/lowend/>                  The low-end Mac site
http://members.aol.com/maccrypt/index.html         Old software and OSs
http://www.gamesdomain.com/tigger/sw-oldmac.html       Old Mac software
http://www.uwm.edu/~thig/plus.html                    Antique Mac pages
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/7275/home.html
                                                  Classic Mac User Group
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lab/1493/    128K Mac users group
http://www.athenet.net/~gyounk                              Mac 512 site
<http://w3.ime.net/~deceiver/phoenixmacrepair.html#top>      Fixing Macs
http://www.lirmm.fr/~gutkneco/maclynx/                           MacLynx
http://www.ncsc.dni.us/fun/user/tcc/cmuseum/cmuseum.htm
                                                Obsolete computer museum
http://www.argonet.co.uk/users/sabell/pb100.html      PowerBook 100 info
http://members.aol.com/towad Sys 6.0.8->6.0.8L and Colour Classic stuff?
http://www.southcom.com.au/~desieh/index.htm                  Lisa stuff
http://weber.u.washington.edu/~manos/network/index.html
                                                    Mac networking guide
ftp://ftp.apple.com/dts/mac/sys.soft/                    Sys 5.0 - 7.0.1
ftp://ftp.apple.com/dts/mac/sys.soft.intl/              Non US Sys 7.0.1
http://www.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/macintosh/                  MacTCP
ftp://ftp.apple.com/devworld/Development_Kits/MacTCP.sit.hqx
                                                                  MacTCP
http://www.academ.com/info/macintosh          Dead batteries on old Macs

I can particularly recommend Jag's House - be sure to look at the (ahem)
`shareware' section.

As for networking, well...  If you use System 6 on the SE and use the
475 as a fileserver, your disc volume names on the 475 will end up
locked which counts as a disc fault but is normal behaviour and quite
benign unless you want to change the name of your HD.  Public Folder
will let you share a folder on a System 6 machine across an AppleTalk
network.

How to network?  I use LocalTalk boxes and phone wire to connect my 475
to a Plus (also an HP DW 520, a Mac Portable until it died, and a Mac
512Ke one day real soon now, as they say).  Anyway, once you've got the
Macs connected via the serial port (in the case of the SE) and either
serial port (in the case of the 475, assuming you can select the serial
port you use for AppleTalk using the AppleTalk control panel), use the
Sharing Setup control panel to give each Mac (assuming System 7 on the
SE) a name, owner name, and owner password.

Assuming that you're not worried about security (that is, if both Macs
are physically accessible if one is physically accessible) you might as
well connect (using the Chooser) as the owner and off you go.

If you don't intend to have more than two devices on your LocalTalk
network, I'm told that you can use a length of printer cable rather than
using `proper' PhoneNet stuff.  I've never tried this.

Rowland.


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