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Steve Firth <filter@firthcom.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Rebecca and Rowland <real-address-in-sig@flurbletigibbet.rhubarb.foobar>
> wrote:
> 
> > Really?  Even a Mac Plus? - if so, I'd like to know about it, 'cos I've
> > got a Mac Plus and a sensibly-sized monitor would be nice).
> 
> Yes, but you'd have to keep an eye out for the kit 2nd hand. I doubt if
> anyone makes it now. There were two options, one was a clip that went
> over the Mac Plus CPU and gave you a RAM boost, a 68030 cpu and an A4
> portrait display (greyscale only). The other was the "ScuzzyGraph" a 16
> colour driver that attached to the SCSI port and worked with a standard
> 13" monitor.

Coo - ta!  You learn something new every day.

> > >I know you like to pop up with these snippets from the
> > > dawn of computing, but I was there and have moved on,
> > 
> > I'm going to nit-pick again, and point out that the dawn of computing
> > was something like 2000 years ago, and the dawn of digital electronic
> > computing was more like 50 or 60 years ago.
> 
> No I was there, before 1984 there was little worth looking at.

Hmm - depends on what you wanted to do.  Admittedly, the Mac was a huge
leap in UI design, but it wasn't a huge leap in processing power.

And the other point is that while *you* might have moved on, some of us
still use computers made in 1986.  Yes, serious professional computer
users tend to use more modern kit, but not everyone can afford to do
that.  And personally, I *like* using equipment that's supposedly
`obsolute'.  I've got an oscilloscope that's the same age as me (made in
1967) - and anyone who sneers at a 150MHz dual-beam scope needs his head
examining.

> The Apple
> IIe for sure and a cheap clone of it based on an 8088 chip and made by
> some company in Boca Raton.

If you're considering this sort of thing as worth looking at, you'd also
have to consider things like the Acorn Atom, BBC Micro, etc., and when
did Cray make its first computer?  1970 when?

(btw, how could you make an Apple IIe clone with an 8088?  Surely it
wouldn't be able to run any of the same software, thus being something
other than a clone?)

> > > and I'm not going
> > > to start prefacing every one of my replies with lists of exceptions from
> > > the Fat Macs backwards.
> > 
> > That would be perfectly sensible if the old Macs were extinct.
> 
> Dead and largely buried (mostly in a landfill site by Apple).

Now then - that's a little unfair.  That only happened to the XLs (Lisa
as was).  I seem to get by with my clutch of old Macs - we've got a Plus
in regular use.

Rowland.

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