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Paul Womar <{$PW$}@pwomar.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Rebecca and Rowland <real-address-in-sig@rhu.barb.foobar> wrote:
> 
> > Paul Womar <{$PW$}@pwomar.demon.co.uk> wrote:
[snip]

> If you can find it, just copy the text straight from the uk.* guideline
> that contains it (I get the feeling this is the text you are using
> anyway), afterall you are asking for a new group not trying to define
> what the uk.* groups are about, the latter has already been done.

I've not been able to find any general uk.* guidelines that specify
anything that precisely.  I'm inclined to the idea that if there are
such guidelines, and any major difference between what I've proposed and
the `official word' on the subject, it'll be pointed out in the
`official' discussion.

[snip]

> I half agree, it's getting to a pretty sorry state where basic things
> need to be stated in each charter but it's already started, a few years
> ago nobody would have even considered that binaries or adverts would be
> tolerated unless the charter specifically stated it, now each charter
> needs to exclude them specifically, I can only see things getting worse.
> You certainly shouldn't be adding reams of netiquette to it but maybe
> "Normal netiquette guidelines such as placing trimmed quotes before
> fresh text and signatures 4 lines or less are strongly encouraged".  In
> the end it's entirely up to you, I don't think it's a point that will
> hinder the creation process either way, UK groups don't seem to suffer
> as badly as most, and without all those PC users using Outlook then
> wonky quoting shouldn't even be an issue.

All useful food for thought.  I've just tossed a mental coin which has
come down in favour of the idea of leaving out any mention of netiquette
for a number of reasons: firstly, I doubt any mention in the charter
will help particularly; secondly, I suspect uk.comp.sys.mac will be
pretty civilised, and if it doesn't end up that way, no amount of
referring to the charter could possibly help; and thirdly, the sort of
person who *does* regularly breach netiquette in a problematic fashion
is unlikely to take any notice of the charter.

But then again...  Sod it:

Posters to uk.comp.sys.mac are encouraged to follow established
netiquette such as placing trimmed quotes before fresh text and using
signatures of 4 lines or less.

Given that this is neither a prohibition nor stronly worded, it should
be enough to stop the demon.local `sig wars' which I've been unfortunate
enough to see in part (cross-posted to uk.rec.motorcycles).

I've posted it as a suggested addendum to the ``Final(?) draft RFD...'
thread; it's probably best to make any comments there so I don't loose
track of things too badly.

I'd like to be able to say something like `Anyone who's a persistant
pain in the arse can expect a napalm enema', but I feel that might give
the wrong impression.

Rowland.


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