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7 total messages Started by Lawrence Flowers Sat, 14 Mar 1998 00:00
OS 8.1 & HFS+ THE ANSWER ?
#1360
Author: Lawrence Flowers
Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 00:00
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OK thanks for everyone would offered advice on this subject.

I've done it!

Here's how:

My set up:   Performa 5200 PPC and a D2 Jaz drive 1Gig

You should already be running OS 8.

Back up all your stuff onto a separate drive (I used my Jaz) and check it is OK.

Restart with unnecessary extensions off (normal procedure).  Run the OS 8.1
updater.  Restart.

Check it all works and you haven't lost anything.  Be sure.

Click the icon for your back up drive and select ERASE DISK from the SPECIAL
menu;  when prompted select Mac OS Extended in the pop up.  Click ERASE.  (Not
all drives will work).

When it is done, back-up your updated OS 8.1 main drive onto it.  Check it's
all OK, (be sure!).

Restart, using the back-up as the start up disk.  Check it's all OK, (be sure!).

Click your original drive icon and select ERASE disk from the SPECIAL menu; 
when prompted select Mac OS Extended in the pop up  (Partitions can be
selected at this stage - click CUSTOM:  Essential if you are running on 68040
or similar. 68040 will require the start up partition to be Mac OS Standard
Format, the other(s) can be any format).  Click ERASE.  (Not all drives are
supported / will work).

If successful you can now transfer your backed up files to your hard drive. 
Restart and check.

NOTE.

It worked for me.  It might not for you.  I did save loads of drive space and
I now have only one partition on a 3.2 Gig Seagate hard disk.

The only problems so far are lost Aliases and it lost my User Profile in
Netscape which I have successfully restored from my back up.

Good Luck.



-- 
Lawrence Flowers                  |   If I hadn't seen such riches,
LEAF TECHNICAL SERVICES LIMITED   |   I could live with being poor.
http://www.leaftech.demon.co.uk   |
leaf@leaftech.demon.co.uk         |   James
Re: OS 8.1 & HFS+ THE ANSWER ?
#1373
Author: Gordon Laurie
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 00:00
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In article <350A90CF.AD27339D@teaftech.demon.co.uk>,
Lawrence Flowers <leaf@teaftech.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>OK thanks for everyone would offered advice on this subject.
>
>I've done it!
>
>Here's how:
<BIG SNIPPO>

Or you could use Plusmaker like I did on an external 500Mb disk, it took 10
minutes and no data was lost (and yes I did back up first!). When someone
gets a disk repair app out for HFS+ then I'll do the rest of my disks. Got
back about 18Mb from the 500Mb drive.

There's another little app out there (I think it's freeware) called
MacSlack which will work out for you how much space you can save by going
to HFS+, worth running it to see if there's much point to changing file
systems.

Gordon


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Re: OS 8.1 & HFS+ THE ANSWER ?
#1374
Author: Alan R Barker
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 00:00
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Gordon Laurie wrote:

> Or you could use Plusmaker like I did on an external 500Mb disk, it took 10
> minutes and no data was lost (and yes I did back up first!). When someone
> gets a disk repair app out for HFS+ then I'll do the rest of my disks. Got
> back about 18Mb from the 500Mb drive.

Were you able to get 0.5K block sizes? I've used PlusMaker and can only get 1K
blocks  - the same as the standad Mac tools give. I'm using a 5320 with a
1.2GB disk partitioned into 4 equal chunks of around 303Mb.
Re: OS 8.1 & HFS+ THE ANSWER ?
#1432
Author: Dave Le Good
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 00:00
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In article <B1316BDA966846DBBB@glaurie.demon.co.uk>,
gordon@glaurie.demon.co.uk (Gordon Laurie) wrote:


>There's another little app out there (I think it's freeware) called
>MacSlack which will work out for you how much space you can save by going
>to HFS+, worth running it to see if there's much point to changing file
>systems.

Where please? The MacSlack I found via Archie i not this :(

Dave
Re: OS 8.1 & HFS+ THE ANSWER ?
#1438
Author: Simon Slavin
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 00:00
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In article <350BCF33.8238FFB3@barker-tech.demon.co.uk>,
Alan R Barker <alan@barker-tech.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Were you able to get 0.5K block sizes?
> I've used PlusMaker and can only get 1K
> blocks  - the same as the standad Mac tools give. I'm using a 5320 with a
> 1.2GB disk partitioned into 4 equal chunks of around 303Mb.

If you're using a partition of 303Mb, 1K is the right size for
blocks.  There's no point in making the blocks any smaller: it'll
double the amount of disk access you have to do without saving a
significant amount of disk space.

Simon.
-- 
Simon Slavin, using a temporary setup.
I may not see incoming email until someone has convinced my
computer that there's nothing wrong with using mains power.
Sorry for any inconvenience.
Re: OS 8.1 & HFS+ THE ANSWER ?
#1446
Author: Gordon Laurie
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 00:00
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In article <350BCF33.8238FFB3@barker-tech.demon.co.uk>,
Alan R Barker <alan@barker-tech.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>Subject: Re: OS 8.1 & HFS+   THE ANSWER ?
>From: Alan R Barker
>Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 12:53:10 +0000
>Newsgroups: demon.tech.mac
>
>
>
>Gordon Laurie wrote:
>
>> Or you could use Plusmaker like I did on an external 500Mb disk, it took 10
>> minutes and no data was lost (and yes I did back up first!). When someone
>> gets a disk repair app out for HFS+ then I'll do the rest of my disks. Got
>> back about 18Mb from the 500Mb drive.
>
>Were you able to get 0.5K block sizes? I've used PlusMaker and can only get 1K
>blocks  - the same as the standad Mac tools give. I'm using a 5320 with a
>1.2GB disk partitioned into 4 equal chunks of around 303Mb.

According to the manual that came with Plusmaker it automatically gives you
0.5k blocks, I can't remember for sure what size the blocks are on my
external drive, but checking with MacSlack it would appear to have done
0.5k blocks. 

Just checked with Norton, yes 512byte blocks. Curious.

Gordon


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Re: OS 8.1 & HFS+ THE ANSWER ?
#1454
Author: Alan R Barker
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 00:00
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Gordon Laurie wrote:

> According to the manual that came with Plusmaker it automatically gives you
> 0.5k blocks, I can't remember for sure what size the blocks are on my
> external drive, but checking with MacSlack it would appear to have done
> 0.5k blocks.
>
> Just checked with Norton, yes 512byte blocks. Curious.
>

Well, after consulting Alsoft, it seems I was interpeting the 'Get Info' dialogue
box too literally - it always rounds up to the nearest K. After experimenting with
very small files in a temporary folder, I have now come to the conclusion that it
really does create 0.5K blocks.

I trust I haven't put anyone off using the tool!
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