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Lawrence Flowers <leaf@teaftech.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Could somebody please suggest the best way to connect a G3 266 desktop mac to
> a Powerbook 180 so that the files can be transfered.

Appletalk over LocalTalk - I'm told that a printer cable to connect the
two Mac will work.  I personally use PhoneNet boxes and phone wire.

Set Mac names, owner names, and owner passwords in the Sharing Setup
control panel, turn on filesharing, connect to the fileserver using
Appleshare in the Chooser, and that's it.  (assuming you have the right
serial port selected in the AppleTalk control panel).

Rowland.

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Rebecca and Rowland wrote:
> 
> Lawrence Flowers <leaf@teaftech.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > Could somebody please suggest the best way to connect a G3 266 desktop mac to
> > a Powerbook 180 so that the files can be transfered.
> 
> Appletalk over LocalTalk - I'm told that a printer cable to connect the
> two Mac will work.  I personally use PhoneNet boxes and phone wire.

Good idea, and nice and simple for me - but my friend who will be operating
it, might get stuck switching between a printer and appletalk.

I would like to leave the G3 connected to his modem and printer.

Any other ideas.


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In article <3504FF44.A05B1DC1@teaftech.demon.co.uk>,
Lawrence Flowers <leaf@teaftech.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> > Lawrence Flowers <leaf@teaftech.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > 
> > > Could somebody please suggest the best way to connect a G3 266 desktop mac to
> > > a Powerbook 180 so that the files can be transfered.
> > 
> I would like to leave the G3 connected to his modem and printer.
> 

I'm pretty sure the PB180 Supports SCSI disk mode - you just need the
appropriate adapter for the PowerBook, and you can attatch it to the G3's
SCSI port as a hard disk. This will certainly give you the fastest file
transfers.

Paul Durrant

Paul Durrant wrote:
> 
> In article <3504FF44.A05B1DC1@teaftech.demon.co.uk>,
> Lawrence Flowers <leaf@teaftech.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > > Lawrence Flowers <leaf@teaftech.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Could somebody please suggest the best way to connect a G3 266 desktop mac to
> > > > a Powerbook 180 so that the files can be transfered.
> > >
> > I would like to leave the G3 connected to his modem and printer.
> >
> 
> I'm pretty sure the PB180 Supports SCSI disk mode - you just need the
> appropriate adapter for the PowerBook, and you can attatch it to the G3's
> SCSI port as a hard disk. This will certainly give you the fastest file
> transfers.

That sounds better; so I need a cable that connects the special SCSI port on
the 180 to the SCSI on the G3?.   What about ID numbers or is that sorted out
anyway by SCSI disc mode?

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Rebecca and Rowland <real-address-in-sig@rhu.barb.foobar> wrote:

[snip]

> Rowland.
> 
> Rowland.

Hmm.  There seems to be two of me at the moment.

Rowland.

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Lawrence Flowers <leaf@teaftech.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> > > > > Could somebody please suggest the best way to connect a G3 266 desktop
> > > > > mac to
> > > > > a Powerbook 180 so that the files can be transfered.
> > > >
> > > I would like to leave the G3 connected to his modem and printer.
> > >
> > 
> > I'm pretty sure the PB180 Supports SCSI disk mode - you just need the
> > appropriate adapter for the PowerBook, and you can attatch it to the G3's
> > SCSI port as a hard disk. This will certainly give you the fastest file
> > transfers.
> 
> That sounds better; so I need a cable that connects the special SCSI port on
> the 180 to the SCSI on the G3?.   What about ID numbers or is that sorted out
> anyway by SCSI disc mode?

One of the powerbook control panels let's you specify the SCSI id in
SCSI disk mode. RTFM for the 180 for information regarding termination,
which is IIRC a bit odd.
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Lawrence Flowers <leaf@teaftech.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Could somebody please suggest the best way to connect a G3 266 desktop mac to
> a Powerbook 180 so that the files can be transfered.
> 
Can't you connect the powerbooks via SCSI to desktop Macs and they
appear as an AppleTalk item in the chooser. I've never seen it done but
I'm almost sure I've read it somewhere. If that's the case, you'll not
get a faster connection than SCSI.  

Lawrence Flowers <leaf@teaftech.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> That sounds better; so I need a cable that connects the special SCSI port on
> the 180 to the SCSI on the G3?.

Yes you'll need a cable but I'm not sure if what you want is possible/a
good idea.

>  What about ID numbers or is that sorted out
> anyway by SCSI disc mode?

This is problem one, both machines will hvae their internal SCSI host
adaptor set to ID 7 which I don't think you can change.  I hear bus
arbitration on some SCSI drives allows you to use 2 machines with one
drive but to be honest it's all over my head, hopefully someone else
knows more than me.  It would be  lot easier to use an external HD and
use that to pass data between the machines with that.  If you want an
HDI 30 pin to 25 pin SCSi cable I do have one but I'd make sure you know
it will all work fine first. 

Lawrence Flowers <leaf@teaftech.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Rebecca and Rowland wrote:
> > 
> > Lawrence Flowers <leaf@teaftech.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > 
> > > Could somebody please suggest the best way to connect a G3 266 desktop
> > > mac to a Powerbook 180 so that the files can be transfered.
> > 
> > Appletalk over LocalTalk - I'm told that a printer cable to connect the
> > two Mac will work.  I personally use PhoneNet boxes and phone wire.
> 
> Good idea, and nice and simple for me - but my friend who will be operating
> it, might get stuck switching between a printer and appletalk.

Yes, switching the leads round all the time isn't a good idea.

> I would like to leave the G3 connected to his modem and printer.

Hmm...  If the printer's got LocalTalk, you might as well bung it on the
network as well.  As far as I know, all HP inkjets have LocalTalk (one
socket which auto-detects whether the connection is LocalTalk or
straight serial).  It's faster than using a straight serial connection.

Rowland.

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Lawrence Flowers <leaf@teaftech.demon.co.uk> wrote:

[snip]

> That sounds better; so I need a cable that connects the special SCSI port on
> the 180 to the SCSI on the G3?.

I'm not sure of any of the details about this, so don't take my word for
it, but...  As far as I know, any SCSI Mac can do this sort of thing
(don't try it at home kiddies - you might blow up your SCSI port; I have
heard of people on the Classic Macs mailing list playing about like
this, though, with everything from Pluses upwards), but the PowerBooks
have got special software that sorts things out neatly

>   What about ID numbers or is that sorted out
> anyway by SCSI disc mode?

I *suspect* you've got to set unique ID numbers for everthing on the bus
as you usually would.

Rowland.

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In article <35057B91.EA47FB12@teaftech.demon.co.uk>,
Lawrence Flowers <leaf@teaftech.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Paul Durrant wrote:
> > I'm pretty sure the PB180 Supports SCSI disk mode - you just need the
> > appropriate adapter for the PowerBook, and you can attatch it to the G3's
> > SCSI port as a hard disk. This will certainly give you the fastest file
> > transfers.
> 
> That sounds better; so I need a cable that connects the special SCSI port on
> the 180 to the SCSI on the G3?.   What about ID numbers or is that sorted out
> anyway by SCSI disc mode?

There are two sorts of HDI-30 (powerbook) SCSI leads - ones for connecting
peripherals to the powerbook, and onces for connecting the Powerbook in
SCSI disk mode. OK, there are some that have switches you can set too. You
want a SCSI disk mode lead - which is identifiable by having all 30 pins
present in the plug. The peripheral connecting ones have only 29 pins - one
of the corner pins is missing.

The SCSI ID number when in SCSI disk mode is set in the PowerBook Setup
control panel.

Paul Durrant

In article <1d5ovrs.10ydatpck8ejjN@pwomar.demon.co.uk>,
Newsmaster@pwomar.demon.co.uk (Paul Womar) wrote:

> Lawrence Flowers <leaf@teaftech.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > That sounds better; so I need a cable that connects the special SCSI port on
> > the 180 to the SCSI on the G3?.
> 
> Yes you'll need a cable but I'm not sure if what you want is possible/a
> good idea.
> 
> >  What about ID numbers or is that sorted out
> > anyway by SCSI disc mode?
> 
> This is problem one, both machines will hvae their internal SCSI host
> adaptor set to ID 7 which I don't think you can change.

No, it does work, and that's not a problem. It's a feature built into the
ROMS of the PowerBooks. I've done it frequently with both a PowerBook 100
and various PowerBook Duos. (AFAIK, only the PB140 and the PB170 don't have
the SCSI disk mode facility.)

Paul Durrant

They would not even be able to talk to eachother, they would fight for
controll, not only being ID 7, but both thinking they are a start-up device,
I wouldn't be suprised if it blew something as well.

Dunno really, never tried it, but I don't think it is generaly recommended. 


In article <1d5ovrs.10ydatpck8ejjN@pwomar.demon.co.uk>,
Newsmaster@pwomar.demon.co.uk (Paul Womar) wrote:

Lawrence Flowers <leaf@teaftech.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> That sounds better; so I need a cable that connects the special SCSI port
on
> the 180 to the SCSI on the G3?.

Yes you'll need a cable but I'm not sure if what you want is possible/a
good idea.

>  What about ID numbers or is that sorted out
> anyway by SCSI disc mode?

This is problem one, both machines will hvae their internal SCSI host
adaptor set to ID 7 which I don't think you can change.  I hear bus
arbitration on some SCSI drives allows you to use 2 machines with one
drive but to be honest it's all over my head, hopefully someone else
knows more than me.  It would be  lot easier to use an external HD and
use that to pass data between the machines with that.  If you want an
HDI 30 pin to 25 pin SCSi cable I do have one but I'd make sure you know
it will all work fine first. 

In article <1d5oys6.tywdvhd11bx4N@p51.nas4.is2.u-net.net>,
real-address-in-sig@rhu.barb.foobar (Rebecca and Rowland) wrote:

> Lawrence Flowers <leaf@teaftech.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > That sounds better; so I need a cable that connects the special SCSI port on
> > the 180 to the SCSI on the G3?.
> 
> I'm not sure of any of the details about this, so don't take my word for
> it, but...  As far as I know, any SCSI Mac can do this sort of thing
> (don't try it at home kiddies - you might blow up your SCSI port; I have
> heard of people on the Classic Macs mailing list playing about like
> this, though, with everything from Pluses upwards), but the PowerBooks
> have got special software that sorts things out neatly

It's physically possible to connect two computers to (say) the same hard
disk. But it's not nice, won't work well, can damage the equipment, and
*won't let you mount the other Mac's hard disk* as they'll both be SCSI ID
0.

As you say, most powerbooks have special ROMs and hardware to enable a
special 'SCSI Disk Mode' operation - when in this mode, they can't be used
as anything except a hard disk, and display the SCSI ID number on the
screen.

Paul Durrant

In article <1d5r11r.1kwpywfolbghjN@firthcom.demon.co.uk>,
filter@firthcom.demon.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote:

> Paul Durrant <pdurrant@durrant.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > You
> > want a SCSI disk mode lead - which is identifiable by having all 30 pins
> > present in the plug. The peripheral connecting ones have only 29 pins
> 
> Are you sure that you have this right? I remember when the disk mode
> cables were in short supply, the instruction was to get a peripheral
> cable and pull out one of the pins with a pair of needle-nosed pliers.

100% positive. And I just checedk at the back of my Duo dock to make sure
too. My peripheral SCSI cable definitely has 29 pins. A SCSI disk mode
cable has all 30 pins in the 6x5 grid.

Paul Durrant

real-address-in-sig@rhu.barb.foobar (Rebecca and Rowland) wrote:

>> Could somebody please suggest the best way to connect a G3 266 desktop mac to
>> a Powerbook 180 so that the files can be transfered.

>Appletalk over LocalTalk - I'm told that a printer cable to connect the
>two Mac will work. 

It does. Very simple, but very slow.

Quickest is to use either an external hard drive or a Syquest, Zip, etc.
The Syquest 230 is only 100 quid now, so well worth considering for quick &
easy backups, with easy file-transfer into the bargain.

Ben

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Paul Womar <Newsmaster@pwomar.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> This is problem one, both machines will hvae their internal SCSI host
> adaptor set to ID 7 which I don't think you can change.  I hear bus
> arbitration on some SCSI drives allows you to use 2 machines with one
> drive but to be honest it's all over my head, hopefully someone else
> knows more than me.  It would be  lot easier to use an external HD and
> use that to pass data between the machines with that.  If you want an
> HDI 30 pin to 25 pin SCSi cable I do have one but I'd make sure you know
> it will all work fine first.

Check the "PowerBook Setup," Control Panel. It will
allow you to set the PB SCSI number to anything you like.

If you got his route make sure you get the "SCSI disk mode,"
cable, it's not the same as a standard SCSI cable.

Sean.

Paul Durrant wrote:
> 
> In article <1d5ovrs.10ydatpck8ejjN@pwomar.demon.co.uk>,
> Newsmaster@pwomar.demon.co.uk (Paul Womar) wrote:
> 
> > Lawrence Flowers <leaf@teaftech.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > That sounds better; so I need a cable that connects the special SCSI port on
> > > the 180 to the SCSI on the G3?.
> >
> > Yes you'll need a cable but I'm not sure if what you want is possible/a
> > good idea.
> >
> > >  What about ID numbers or is that sorted out
> > > anyway by SCSI disc mode?
> >
> > This is problem one, both machines will hvae their internal SCSI host
> > adaptor set to ID 7 which I don't think you can change.
> 
> No, it does work, and that's not a problem. It's a feature built into the
> ROMS of the PowerBooks. I've done it frequently with both a PowerBook 100
> and various PowerBook Duos. (AFAIK, only the PB140 and the PB170 don't have
> the SCSI disk mode facility.)

Excellent, thanks Paul, you write with confidence, I'm ordering the cable now!

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Rebecca and Rowland wrote:

> > I would like to leave the G3 connected to his modem and printer.
> 
> Hmm...  If the printer's got LocalTalk, you might as well bung it on the
> network as well.  As far as I know, all HP inkjets have LocalTalk (one
> socket which auto-detects whether the connection is LocalTalk or
> straight serial).  It's faster than using a straight serial connection.

Yes your right but he has a Stylewriter 1200 not HP.  (Actually a naff printer
considering I just talked him into spending 4.5K pounds on a G3, 21" and scanner).

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In article <1d5ovrs.10ydatpck8ejjN@pwomar.demon.co.uk>,
Newsmaster@pwomar.demon.co.uk (Paul Womar) wrote:

>Subject: Re: G3 to Powerbook 180
>From: Paul Womar
>Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 23:17:01 +0000
>Newsgroups: demon.tech.mac
>
>Lawrence Flowers <leaf@teaftech.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> That sounds better; so I need a cable that connects the special SCSI port on
>> the 180 to the SCSI on the G3?.
>
>Yes you'll need a cable but I'm not sure if what you want is possible/a
>good idea.
>
>>  What about ID numbers or is that sorted out
>> anyway by SCSI disc mode?
>
>This is problem one, both machines will hvae their internal SCSI host
>adaptor set to ID 7 which I don't think you can change.  I hear bus
>arbitration on some SCSI drives allows you to use 2 machines with one
>drive but to be honest it's all over my head, hopefully someone else
>knows more than me.  It would be  lot easier to use an external HD and
>use that to pass data between the machines with that.  If you want an
>HDI 30 pin to 25 pin SCSi cable I do have one but I'd make sure you know
>it will all work fine first. 

It works fine, there's a control panel on the Powerbook to allow you to
choose a different SCSI number for it. It's the best way to go if you don't
mind the fact that the Powerbook has to be pretty close physically to the
Mac.

Gordon


One of these days I'm going to think of a decent sig line

[commenting on connecting a PowerBook 180 to a PM G3]

In article <35073e65.0@ntnews.compusmart.ab.ca>,
"Rick Gold" <rgold@compusmart.ab.ca> wrote:
> They would not even be able to talk to eachother, they would fight for
> controll, not only being ID 7, but both thinking they are a start-up device,
> I wouldn't be suprised if it blew something as well.
> 
> Dunno really, never tried it, but I don't think it is generaly recommended. 

All PowerBooks except the PB140 and PB170 can operate in SCSI disk mode
(even ones with IDE internal drives!) and are designed to be able to be
connected to other SCSI machines. It's not like connecting two desktop
machines by their SCSI ports, which is definitely not a good idea.

Paul Durrant

Lawrence Flowers <leaf@teaftech.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Rebecca and Rowland wrote:
> 
> > > I would like to leave the G3 connected to his modem and printer.
> > 
> > Hmm...  If the printer's got LocalTalk, you might as well bung it on the
> > network as well.  As far as I know, all HP inkjets have LocalTalk (one
> > socket which auto-detects whether the connection is LocalTalk or
> > straight serial).  It's faster than using a straight serial connection.
> 
> Yes your right but he has a Stylewriter 1200 not HP.

Ah well - it was a thought.

>  (Actually a naff printer considering I just talked him into spending 4.5K
> pounds on a G3, 21" and scanner).

Hmm - curious.

Rowland.

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Ben Lovejoy <ben@lovejoy.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> real-address-in-sig@rhu.barb.foobar (Rebecca and Rowland) wrote:
> 
> >> Could somebody please suggest the best way to connect a G3 266 desktop
> >> mac to a Powerbook 180 so that the files can be transfered.
> 
> >Appletalk over LocalTalk - I'm told that a printer cable to connect the
> >two Mac will work. 
> 
> It does. Very simple, but very slow.

Not all that slow.  Admittedly not all that *quick*, but if the files
aren't huge, the lack of speed isn't a problem.

> Quickest is to use either an external hard drive or a Syquest, Zip, etc.
> The Syquest 230 is only 100 quid now, so well worth considering for quick &
> easy backups, with easy file-transfer into the bargain.

It depends on the file size.  You get 230400 bit/s with LocalTalk, which
means transferring a 100KByte file takes:

100*1024*8/230400 = 3.4 seconds (actually a bit more, but you get the
idea)

Which is less than the time it takes to insert and mount a disc.

Rowland.

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Paul Durrant <pdurrant@durrant.demon.co.uk> wrote:

[snip]

> It's physically possible to connect two computers to (say) the same hard
> disk. But it's not nice, won't work well, can damage the equipment, and
> *won't let you mount the other Mac's hard disk* as they'll both be SCSI ID
> 0.

The times I've heard about this being done, one of the Macs had the SCSI
ID of the internal HDD set to something other than 0.

Rowland.

[snip]

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Hey, you've a little pic of a Mac in the top right corner... Did you  do
that or is it an auto-feature of MacSoup. And yours doesn't broadcast to
the world that it's unregistered! I think mine does...

Cheers,
Matti.

Steve Firth <filter@firthcom.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Paul Durrant <pdurrant@durrant.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> >  OK, there are some that have switches you can set too. You
> > want a SCSI disk mode lead - which is identifiable by having all 30 pins
> > present in the plug. The peripheral connecting ones have only 29 pins - one
> > of the corner pins is missing.
> 
> Are you sure that you have this right? I remember when the disk mode
> cables were in short supply, the instruction was to get a peripheral
> cable and pull out one of the pins with a pair of needle-nosed pliers.


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Matthew Greenfield <matti@grnfield.u-net.com> wrote:

> Hey, you've a little pic of a Mac in the top right corner... Did you  do
> that or is it an auto-feature of MacSoup.

It's an "X-Face".

> And yours doesn't broadcast to
> the world that it's unregistered! I think mine does...

That's what happens when you pay for software.

Paul Womar <Newsmaster@pwomar.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Matthew Greenfield <matti@grnfield.u-net.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hey, you've a little pic of a Mac in the top right corner... Did you  do
> > that or is it an auto-feature of MacSoup.
> 
> It's an "X-Face".
> 
> > And yours doesn't broadcast to
> > the world that it's unregistered! I think mine does...
> 
> That's what happens when you pay for software.

This group's very sanctimonious... I'm still in 'try-out mode' which
lasts 30 days. I'm on day 27 so the pressure's on...

Ciao,
Matti.
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Steve Firth <filter@firthcom.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Matthew Greenfield <matti@grnfield.u-net.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hey, you've a little pic of a Mac in the top right corner... Did you  do
> > that or is it an auto-feature of MacSoup.
> 
> I did it.
> 
> > And yours doesn't broadcast to
> > the world that it's unregistered! I think mine does...
> 
> Try paying for it.

Oh, so that's what registering means.


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Matthew Greenfield <matti@grnfield.u-net.com> wrote:

> Hey, you've a little pic of a Mac in the top right corner... Did you  do
> that or is it an auto-feature of MacSoup. And yours doesn't broadcast to
> the world that it's unregistered! I think mine does...

it's the x-face header that does it. Check out the shareware program
Saving Face for more info....

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Matthew Greenfield <matti@grnfield.u-net.com> wrote:

> Paul Womar <Newsmaster@pwomar.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > Matthew Greenfield <matti@grnfield.u-net.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > Hey, you've a little pic of a Mac in the top right corner... Did you  do
> > > that or is it an auto-feature of MacSoup.
> > 
> > It's an "X-Face".
> > 
> > > And yours doesn't broadcast to
> > > the world that it's unregistered! I think mine does...
> > 
> > That's what happens when you pay for software.
> 
> This group's very sanctimonious... I'm still in 'try-out mode' which
> lasts 30 days. I'm on day 27 so the pressure's on...

I know, it starts telling us how long you have been used it if you
continue to do so with registering.  The way you said it, appeared to me
to be as if you had no intention of buying it had no idea why Steve's
copy didn't say it was unregistered.

Rhodri <rhodri@gyoker.demon.co.yukae> wrote:

> Matthew Greenfield <matti@grnfield.u-net.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hey, you've a little pic of a Mac in the top right corner... Did you  do
> > that or is it an auto-feature of MacSoup. And yours doesn't broadcast to
> > the world that it's unregistered! I think mine does...
> 
> it's the x-face header that does it. Check out the shareware program
> Saving Face for more info....

Thanks,
I will do.

Matti.
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Matthew Greenfield <matti@grnfield.u-net.com> wrote:

[snip]

> This group's very sanctimonious...

I don't think `sanctimonious' is the right word when someone points out
a straightforward fact.

Rowland.

[snip]


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real-address-in-sig@rhu.barb.foobar (Rebecca and Rowland) wrote:

>> >Appletalk over LocalTalk - I'm told that a printer cable to connect the
>> >two Mac will work. 

>> It does. Very simple, but very slow.

>Not all that slow.  Admittedly not all that *quick*, but if the files
>aren't huge, the lack of speed isn't a problem.

Having recently transferred 120Mb that way, I don't recommend it if the
files *are* large. :-)

Ben

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