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Peter Ceresole <peter@cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Demon have started to make the Dispatches CD dual-boot, which is a
> nuisance.

> When it was straight DOS/Unix, this worked perfectly. Now, I find that the
> Apple CD-ROM driver won't let me read the DOS partition of dual-boot
> drives, even if I am using SoftWindows.

The latter part is very odd, I though they accessed the CD drive
directly, I suppose if you disable the Aplle drivers youc ould find out!

> The SoftWin manual tells me that there is a driver called RapidCD, from
> Insignia, that will allow me to read both. Are there any others? Shareware
> or free, even? Could I install such a driver without messing up my "normal"
> CD operation?

FWB CD Rom toolkit will certainly do it.

In article <1d4uwgc.1o7axgj1dwlkhmN@pwomar.demon.co.uk>,
Newsmaster@pwomar.demon.co.uk (Paul Womar) wrote:

>The latter part is very odd, I though they accessed the CD drive
>directly, I suppose if you disable the Aplle drivers youc ould find out!

Nope; I got the info from the SoftWin2 manual. You have to have the
non-Apple driver.

It accesses DOS type CDs fine- so I reckon it's using the Apple driver.

Thanks for the info about the FWB CD Rom Toolkit.

-- 
Peter

In article <1d4uviy.tfccnr1kz3r9qN@firthcom.demon.co.uk>,
filter@firthcom.demon.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote:

>> Could I install such a driver without messing up my "normal"
>> CD operation?
>
>Not really, well sort of.

Hmmm. Thanks. I'll have to think about whether it's worth it for the number
of times I'll use it.

-- 
Peter

In article <B115A755966848F31@cara.demon.co.uk>,
peter@cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) wrote:

>Subject: Dual-boot CD driver?
>From: peter@cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole)
>Organization: none
>Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 09:58:45 +0000
>Newsgroups: demon.tech.mac
>
>Demon have started to make the Dispatches CD dual-boot, which is a
>nuisance.
>
>It often contains files which I want to get across to my Toshiba, which is
>CD-less. I copy them, using the Mac, to a DOS Zip cartridge, then to the
>Toshiba.  
>
>When it was straight DOS/Unix, this worked perfectly. Now, I find that the
>Apple CD-ROM driver won't let me read the DOS partition of dual-boot
>drives, even if I am using SoftWindows.
>
>The SoftWin manual tells me that there is a driver called RapidCD, from
>Insignia, that will allow me to read both. Are there any others? Shareware
>or free, even? Could I install such a driver without messing up my "normal"
>CD operation?
>


There is a control panel called MultiSession Mounter that will let a mac
mount other volumes from a CD if the CD drive supports them.. I thinks it's
free..

As already mentioned. FWB's CD driver will also do it automatically.

Steve

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In article <B115A755966848F31@cara.demon.co.uk>,
peter@cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) wrote:

>Demon have started to make the Dispatches CD dual-boot, which is a
>nuisance.

 snip

>When it was straight DOS/Unix, this worked perfectly. Now, I find that the
>Apple CD-ROM driver won't let me read the DOS partition of dual-boot
>drives, even if I am using SoftWindows.

You prompted me to do what I had been reluctant to face:  to try to copy
from the dual boot Demon CD and upgrade my Turnpike and IE.  Two days later
(at least six gruelling hours of letting Wizards creakily cast their
spells) I have them installed.  Turnpike definitely works but I need a
breather before having a go at the replacement to my IE 3.0.  But the point
is that they did transfer, even though at times I thought nothing was
happening:  no dialogue box or associated graphic on the standard screen at
times; and clicking OK or close window took ages, so that it was easy to
click a following instruction before the first had been completed. 
Treacle!

I'm using a 7200/90 with 49Mb of installed RAM.

Maybe just time is needed?

Keith

Keith Crook
keith@valperga.demon.co.uk

In article <B117579E96681464C5@valperga.demon.co.uk>,
keith@valperga.demon.co.uk (Keith Crook) wrote:

>You prompted me to do what I had been reluctant to face:  to try to copy
>from the dual boot Demon CD and upgrade my Turnpike and IE.  Two days later
>(at least six gruelling hours of letting Wizards creakily cast their
>spells) I have them installed.

Interesting. Using SoftWin 2 (I have uninstalled SoftWin95) I simply can't
see the DOS partition on the CD-ROM. If says "disk missing". And the manual
explains why. But looking at the SoftWin95 manual it doesn't mention using
an alternative driver.

Conclusion has to be that SWin95 will read the DOS partition of dual boot
CDs and SWin2 will not.

So I guess I need to reinstall SWin95. Given the room it takes up, I'm not
sure I want to. I'll try to find out how much the Insignia driver for SWin2
costs. If not too much, it's certainly the neater solution for me.

-- 
Peter

Peter Ceresole <peter@cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <B117579E96681464C5@valperga.demon.co.uk>,
> keith@valperga.demon.co.uk (Keith Crook) wrote:
> 
> >You prompted me to do what I had been reluctant to face:  to try to copy
> >from the dual boot Demon CD and upgrade my Turnpike and IE.  Two days later
> >(at least six gruelling hours of letting Wizards creakily cast their
> >spells) I have them installed.
> 
> Interesting. Using SoftWin 2 (I have uninstalled SoftWin95) I simply can't
> see the DOS partition on the CD-ROM. If says "disk missing". And the manual
> explains why. But looking at the SoftWin95 manual it doesn't mention using
> an alternative driver.
> 
> Conclusion has to be that SWin95 will read the DOS partition of dual boot
> CDs and SWin2 will not.
> 
> So I guess I need to reinstall SWin95. Given the room it takes up, I'm not
> sure I want to. I'll try to find out how much the Insignia driver for SWin2
> costs. If not too much, it's certainly the neater solution for me.

Try running the SW95 application with the SW2 drive container file, and
that way you'll know if the difference is in the application or the
windows drivers.

-- 
'ric

Peter Ceresole wrote:
> 
> Demon have started to make the Dispatches CD dual-boot, which is a
> nuisance.
> 
> It often contains files which I want to get across to my Toshiba, which is
> CD-less. I copy them, using the Mac, to a DOS Zip cartridge, then to the
> Toshiba.
> 
> When it was straight DOS/Unix, this worked perfectly. Now, I find that the
> Apple CD-ROM driver won't let me read the DOS partition of dual-boot
> drives, even if I am using SoftWindows.
SNIPPED
 CD operation?
> 
> Info gratefully received...
> 
> --
> Peter

There is Hope!  AND here it is -
I have a control panel on my 8100/100 by Asatrte, which is called 
multi-session mounter (mine is version 2.0.5).  This control panel allows 
you to mount second and subsequent sessions on multi-session CDs.  each 
appears as an appropriately sized mounted smaller than normal CD.  Now 
although oit mount multi-session CDs fine IT ALSO wil mount PC partition 
on mixed mode CDs such as the demon one - just as if it were a plain old 
multi-session CD.  Once mounted in this fashion all thos PC files are easily 
copied straight off the CD.

I acquired the control panel from a Mac bureau who were writing 
multi-session CDs from me which I could only read the first session on.  
When I moaned I couldn't see half the file thay told me were on it they gave 
me this control panel.  I don't know if its public domain or not, but if you 
want to e-mail me directly I don't mind letting you try it out, before 
writing to the maker to see if it is public.  (I beleive it made by the same 
people who do "TOAST" CD writing software).

Cheers

Steve Parker

( Stephen R Parker
steve@parkfish.demon.co.uk)

In article <34FB1A21.B74@parkfish.demon.co.uk>,
Steve Parker <steve@parkfish.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>There is Hope!  AND here it is -
>I have a control panel on my 8100/100 by Asatrte, which is called 
>multi-session mounter (mine is version 2.0.5).  This control panel allows 
>you to mount second and subsequent sessions on multi-session CDs.

And it's wonderful.

Thanks for the tip.

-- 
Peter