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4 total messages Started by Adrian Taylor Fri, 13 Feb 1998 00:00
Mac -> Linux
#1765
Author: Adrian Taylor
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 00:00
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I'm trying to find a way to connect my Apple Duo to our network, without having
to bring in a DuoDock.

I'd considered using an Appletalk cable to connect to my Linux machine...

Has anyone done this? I know Linux supports Appletalk, but it's the cabling
I'm most unsure of - what would I need? Appletalk to Parallel?

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Adrian Taylor
UNIX Systems Support
Southampton University Computing Services
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Re: Mac -> Linux
#1767
Author: Rebecca and Rowland
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 00:00
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Adrian Taylor <ajt@speedy.sucs.soton.ac.uk> wrote:

> I'm trying to find a way to connect my Apple Duo to our network, without
> having to bring in a DuoDock.
> 
> I'd considered using an Appletalk cable to connect to my Linux machine...
> 
> Has anyone done this? I know Linux supports Appletalk, but it's the cabling
> I'm most unsure of - what would I need? Appletalk to Parallel?

AppleTalk is the name of the networking protocol - the software side of
things.  If you're using LocalTalk out of a Mac serial port, that's just
the hardware side of things - you could just as well be AppleTalking
over Ethernet.

Not that this helps at all - I suppose what really matters is the
details of how Linux supports AppleTalk.  It's not inconceivable that it
can support LocalTalk somehow - maybe it's possible to wire a Phonenet
connector to an RS232 port?  (This can probably be done at the cost of
losing noise immunity; but the average Wintel box has a 115200 bit/s
serial port which is too slow).

Otherwise, you might have to get yourself a LocalTalk card - such
devices have been made, and I know nothing about them.

Rowland.


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Re: Mac -> Linux
#1768
Author: Alan W. Frame
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 00:00
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Adrian Taylor <ajt@speedy.sucs.soton.ac.uk> wrote:

> I'm trying to find a way to connect my Apple Duo to our network, without
> having to bring in a DuoDock.
> 
> I'd considered using an Appletalk cable to connect to my Linux machine...
> 
> Has anyone done this? I know Linux supports Appletalk, but it's the cabling
> I'm most unsure of - what would I need? Appletalk to Parallel?

How much do you want to do with the Linux box from the Mac?

You can just use a simple serial cable to connect to an RS232 
running "getty" on the Linux box, and just run a terminal emulator on
the Mac, (through the serial port) and skip LocalTalk (and indeed *any*
"networking" at all).

I've used this method to coax console-less VAXen into life.

That will get you onto the box (and you'll still be able to Kermit
etc. to/from the Mac), but you won't get any network services.

rgds, Alan 
Re: Mac -> Linux
#1770
Author: ric
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 00:00
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Adrian Taylor <ajt@speedy.sucs.soton.ac.uk> wrote:

> I'm trying to find a way to connect my Apple Duo to our network, without
> having
> to bring in a DuoDock.
> 
> I'd considered using an Appletalk cable to connect to my Linux machine...
> 
> Has anyone done this? I know Linux supports Appletalk, but it's the cabling
> I'm most unsure of - what would I need? Appletalk to Parallel?

I think Linux only supports appletalk on ethernet unless you have a
localtalk card, (of which I own one, but have no drivers). Might I
suggest setting up a PPP server on the LINUX box and using PPP on the
Duo? What protocols have you got available?
-- 
'ric
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