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10 total messages Started by Harold Ludman Tue, 20 Jan 1998 00:00
OS 8.1 Upgrade
#1898
Author: Harold Ludman
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 00:00
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I have just downloaded the OS 8.1 upgrade from Apple and tried to use it
for OS 8 on a G3.

I have failed each time, with a message, after updating the disk drivers,
which says "A US English or International English version of System
Software is required to install this update on volume ...
Please check your configuration"

The only option is OK, which produces a screen saying "An error has stopped
the installation process. Some software has not been installed." The
options are to try again, which produces the same result, to stop, to skip
installing this software item only. When the last is chosen, the message
comes that insallation has finished, but the system is unchanged.

What am I doing wrong?  Has anyone else had similar difficulty? 
Can anyone suggest a way round this impasse? Advice would be much
appreciated.
Re: OS 8.1 Upgrade
#1901
Author: ric
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 00:00
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Harold Ludman <harold@ludman.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> I have just downloaded the OS 8.1 upgrade from Apple and tried to use it
> for OS 8 on a G3.
> 
> I have failed each time, with a message, after updating the disk drivers,
> which says "A US English or International English version of System
> Software is required to install this update on volume ...
> Please check your configuration"
> 
> The only option is OK, which produces a screen saying "An error has stopped
> the installation process. Some software has not been installed." The
> options are to try again, which produces the same result, to stop, to skip
> installing this software item only. When the last is chosen, the message
> comes that insallation has finished, but the system is unchanged.
> 
> What am I doing wrong?  Has anyone else had similar difficulty? 
> Can anyone suggest a way round this impasse? Advice would be much
> appreciated.

You've downladed the American 8.1 updater and are trying to use it on a
localised system. This sometimes has worked in the past, but appears not
to work in this case. This may be due to Apple being unduly paranoid
about wanting to make certain that only the correct updater is applied,
or it may be due to concern about very real problems appearing with this
update/original system combination. Your best option is to wait for the
localised updater to appear. The masochistic hacker could attempt to
change all of the systems localisation resources to match the expected
US system, but I've got no idea as to the consequences of applying the
update after doing this.


-- 
'ric
Re: OS 8.1 Upgrade
#1903
Author: Alan W. Frame
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 00:00
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Harold Ludman <harold@ludman.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> I have just downloaded the OS 8.1 upgrade from Apple and tried to use it
> for OS 8 on a G3.
> 
> I have failed each time, with a message, after updating the disk drivers,
> which says "A US English or International English version of System
> Software is required to install this update on volume ...
> Please check your configuration"
> 
> The only option is OK, which produces a screen saying "An error has stopped
> the installation process. Some software has not been installed." The
> options are to try again, which produces the same result, to stop, to skip
> installing this software item only. When the last is chosen, the message
> comes that insallation has finished, but the system is unchanged.
> 
> What am I doing wrong?  Has anyone else had similar difficulty? 

Err, you're not running "US English or International English version of
System Software", which is what the uprgade installer expects.

(from my experience of Sys 7.x)
"US" = American.
"International English" = a strange version using English, but, ISTR,
with different currency symbols, date/time formats, number formats and
keyboard settings. 

Both of these differ from the UK version of system software.

> Can anyone suggest a way round this impasse? Advice would be much
> appreciated.

Wait for a UK ("B") version or install US Sys 8.0.

rgds, Alan
Re: OS 8.1 Upgrade
#1904
Author: Rebecca and Rowland
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 00:00
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Harold Ludman <harold@ludman.demon.co.uk> wrote:

[snip]
> I have failed each time, with a message, after updating the disk drivers,
> which says "A US English or International English version of System
> Software is required to install this update on volume ...
[snip]
> What am I doing wrong?  Has anyone else had similar difficulty? 
> Can anyone suggest a way round this impasse? Advice would be much
> appreciated.

My best guess is that you've downloaded the updater for the US (and
international English) version of System 8.  You need the updater for
the British version of System 8, which probably isn't available yet.

Rowland.


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Re: OS 8.1 Upgrade
#1820
Author: Matthew Greenfield
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 00:00
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I assume you have a UK or international English version of OS8.0 and it
won't accept the US English version. It says that the International
English version won't be ready for 60 days!

Boo!

Matti.

Harold Ludman <harold@ludman.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> I have just downloaded the OS 8.1 upgrade from Apple and tried to use it
> for OS 8 on a G3.
> 
> I have failed each time, with a message, after updating the disk drivers,
> which says "A US English or International English version of System
> Software is required to install this update on volume ...
> Please check your configuration"
> 
> The only option is OK, which produces a screen saying "An error has stopped
> the installation process. Some software has not been installed." The
> options are to try again, which produces the same result, to stop, to skip
> installing this software item only. When the last is chosen, the message
> comes that insallation has finished, but the system is unchanged.
> 
> What am I doing wrong?  Has anyone else had similar difficulty? 
> Can anyone suggest a way round this impasse? Advice would be much
> appreciated.


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Re: OS 8.1 Upgrade
#1822
Author: Robin Jackson
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 00:00
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In article <clive-ya02408000R2001982343070001@news.demon.co.uk>,
clive@sunnyday.demon.co.uk (Clive Wilson) wrote:

>The British OS 8.1 upgrade is due to be available March/April time, AFAIK.
>Be patient, the time is nigh!

Of course you could laways do what I do....  Run the US version of MacOS
anyway.

Updates are available as soon as they are on the Apple web site, no waiting
for localisation and apart from some odd spellings and trash instead of
waste basket there is NO DIFFERENCE between the operating systems.

I have been using US versions for around 1-2 years with no problems.

Robin.
Re: OS 8.1 Upgrade
#1825
Author: Steve Rogers
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 00:00
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Robin Jackson <robin@moneypit.demon.co.ku> wrote:

> I have been using US versions for around 1-2 years with no problems.

Yes, so have I, (and then sidegrading to the B versions too), but
according to the original poster, Harold Ludman
<harold@ludman.demon.co.uk>, this particular version is set up to refuse
to update a B[ritish] system.

BTW, a friend says his friend has updated to the B version already,
available from one Web address only.  Netopian urban myth or leaked
development version?

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Re: OS 8.1 Upgrade
#1826
Author: Rebecca and Rowland
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 00:00
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Robin Jackson <robin@moneypit.demon.co.ku> wrote:

[snip]

> Updates are available as soon as they are on the Apple web site, no waiting
> for localisation and apart from some odd spellings and trash instead of
> waste basket there is NO DIFFERENCE between the operating systems.

According to an article I read in a UK Mac mag a little while back,
which centred around the `Why does it take so piggin' long to change
`Color' to `Colour'?' question, there's more differences than that.

Apparently, because of the ridiculous delay between the release of the
US and all other versions of the MacOS, Apple has time to do plenty of
bug-fixes, which make their way into the foreign versions.

> I have been using US versions for around 1-2 years with no problems.

About what I'd expect really.  btw, if you're handy with ResEdit, it's
not hard to change a US version of MacOS into something that looks like
a British version (if you've access to a similar British version of the
MacOS).

Rowland.

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Re: OS 8.1 Upgrade
#1830
Author: Chris Bennett
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 00:00
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Steve Rogers <thebeast@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Robin Jackson <robin@moneypit.demon.co.ku> wrote:
> 
> > I have been using US versions for around 1-2 years with no problems.
> 
> Yes, so have I

Any recommended ways to get hold of US versions? Does anyone over here
sell them, or do you order direct from the States?

Chris.
Re: OS 8.1 Upgrade
#1832
Author: Robin Jackson
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 00:00
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In article <199801222342132010941@thebeast.demon.co.uk>,
thebeast@nospam.demon.co.uk (Steve Rogers) wrote:

>Subject: Re: OS 8.1 Upgrade
>From: Steve Rogers
>Organization: The Difference Engine
>Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 23:42:13 +0000
>Newsgroups: demon.tech.mac
>
>Robin Jackson <robin@moneypit.demon.co.ku> wrote:
>
>> I have been using US versions for around 1-2 years with no problems.
>
>Yes, so have I, (and then sidegrading to the B versions too), but
>according to the original poster, Harold Ludman
><harold@ludman.demon.co.uk>, this particular version is set up to refuse
>to update a B[ritish] system.
>
>BTW, a friend says his friend has updated to the B version already,
>available from one Web address only.  Netopian urban myth or leaked
>development version?

Don't know but I can gues!!!!!

I upgraded all my machines today (9600, 3400/200 and Powerbook G3).

ALL HAVE GONE FLAWLESSLY...........

Everything seems stable thus far..

I will post if I get any problems.

Robin
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