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Ben Lovejoy <ben@lovejoy.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Well, having just been forced to do a low-level format to try to cure the
> weird system bugs mentioned in here recently, coinciding with a quiet week,
> I'm thinking that now is a sensible time to look at possible software
> changes.
> 
> I'm extremely happy with Claris Emailer 2 and WhatRoute (ping, traceroute,
> etc, etc), so won't be changing those. But I'm open to suggestions for
> everything else. I've put in brackets what I'm currently using:
> 
> - Newsreader (Newshopper 1.2)

MacSoup.

> - Web browser (Netscape Communicator)

The only currently sensible alternative is that MS thing which I shan't
name, unless you feel like CyberDog.

> - IRC (Ircle 3.something)

Not a clue.

> - FTP (Fetch)

If you've got a System 8.1 or above Mac, Anarchie Pro 3.5 is damned
good.

> In particular, I'm quite out of touch with video formats - I've seeing more
> and more websites with motorcycling videos, and people also email me same,
> but I haven't worked out how to view most of them. The main formats I've
> seen are .avi and .rm.

AVIs can be viewed with QT 3's movie player, but you might need to pick
up some extra extensions to read all the different AVIs that are kicking
around.

Rowland.

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real-address-in-sig@flur.bltigibbet (Rebecca and Rowland) wrote:

>> I'm extremely happy with Claris Emailer 2 and WhatRoute (ping, traceroute,
>> etc, etc), so won't be changing those. But I'm open to suggestions for
>> everything else. I've put in brackets what I'm currently using:

>> - Newsreader (Newshopper 1.2)
>
>MacSoup.

Is that on the mirror sites, or do you have an URL?

>> - Web browser (Netscape Communicator)
>
>The only currently sensible alternative is that MS thing which I shan't
>name, unless you feel like CyberDog.

Looks like I'm sticking with NC then!

>> - FTP (Fetch)
>
>If you've got a System 8.1 or above Mac, Anarchie Pro 3.5 is damned
>good.

Great, I had an old version of Anarchie that got a conflict with something
or other, but greatly preferred it to Fetch so I'll try that.

Ben

>>> - Web browser (Netscape Communicator)
>>
>>The only currently sensible alternative is that MS thing which I shan't
>>name, unless you feel like CyberDog.
>
>Looks like I'm sticking with NC then!

Have just downloaded Communicator 4.5. Will report back on how I fare with
it.

Ben

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Ben Lovejoy <ben@lovejoy.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> I'm extremely happy with Claris Emailer 2 and WhatRoute (ping, traceroute,
> etc, etc), so won't be changing those. But I'm open to suggestions for
> everything else. I've put in brackets what I'm currently using:
> 
> - Newsreader (Newshopper 1.2)

Newshopper is a fine newsreader but Macsoup is (IMHO) better, see
<http://www.snafu.de/~stk/macsoup/>.

> - Web browser (Netscape Communicator)

I use 4.5, it's a pity that no Navigator 4.5 is available, I don't want
the newsreader/email bits.

> - IRC (Ircle 3.something)

I don't think they really come any better.

> - FTP (Fetch)

I have stuck with fetch because I rarely use FTP but Anarchie and
Transmit (formerly Transit) might be worth looking at if you fancy a
change.

> In particular, I'm quite out of touch with video formats - I've seeing more
> and more websites with motorcycling videos, and people also email me same,
> but I haven't worked out how to view most of them. The main formats I've
> seen are .avi and .rm.

.rm are Realmeadia files, very small but bad quality, pretty crap and
unstable player though, see <http://www.real.com> for the Real player.
.avi are windows video files, the extension means very little though,
from that you don't know if you will be able to play them.  avi files
can use any number of different "codecs", that is the scheme used to
encode them, 2 of them are not available in Mac Versions, Indeo 5 &
I263.  Quicktime 3 will play most of them but you will also need Indeo
3.2 & Indeo 4 extensions in order to play those files, both should be
available from <http://www.intel.com>, the 3.2 extension will play all
previous versions, oddly the v4 extension will play only v4 files.
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{$PW$}@pwomar.demon.co.uk (Paul Womar) wrote:

>Newshopper is a fine newsreader but Macsoup is (IMHO) better, see
><http://www.snafu.de/~stk/macsoup/>.

Will give it a look.

>> - Web browser (Netscape Communicator)
>
>I use 4.5, it's a pity that no Navigator 4.5 is available, I don't want
>the newsreader/email bits.

Just upgraded to 4.5, and it seems very similar to 4.03, but with one
annoying bug fixed. As you say, very bloated, but it does the job well.

>> - IRC (Ircle 3.something)
>
>I don't think they really come any better.

Good stuff - I did try something else a while back but Dalnet took a
dislike to it.

>I have stuck with fetch because I rarely use FTP but Anarchie and
>Transmit (formerly Transit) might be worth looking at if you fancy a
>change.

Yes, got Anarchie Pro and it seems excellent. 

>.rm are Realmeadia files
<snip>

Thanks for the very comprehensive explanation.

Ben

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Ben Lovejoy <ben@lovejoy.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> real-address-in-sig@flur.bltigibbet (Rebecca and Rowland) wrote:
> 
> >> I'm extremely happy with Claris Emailer 2 and WhatRoute (ping, traceroute,
> >> etc, etc), so won't be changing those. But I'm open to suggestions for
> >> everything else. I've put in brackets what I'm currently using:
> 
> >> - Newsreader (Newshopper 1.2)
> >
> >MacSoup.
> 
> Is that on the mirror sites, or do you have an URL?

http://www.snafu.de/~stk/macsoup/                       MacSoup

[snip]

> >If you've got a System 8.1 or above Mac, Anarchie Pro 3.5 is damned
> >good.
> 
> Great, I had an old version of Anarchie that got a conflict with something
> or other, but greatly preferred it to Fetch so I'll try that.

http://www.stairways.com

Rowland.

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Ben Lovejoy <ben@lovejoy.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Just upgraded to 4.5, and it seems very similar to 4.03, but with one
> annoying bug fixed. As you say, very bloated, but it does the job well.

I like it because you can have your favourite bookmarks as buttons at
the top of the window and I can use control/command click to open a page
in a new window, which is right click on my mouse.
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Ben Lovejoy <ben@lovejoy.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> - Newsreader (Newshopper 1.2)

MacSOUP


> - Web browser (Netscape Communicator)

Internet Explorer 4.5... IE has always beaten the crumbs out of Netscape
for stability, features and small RAM footprint.  I resisted as long as
I could, but you gotta hand it to M$ when they do something right.


> - IRC (Ircle 3.something)

Homer is by far the most fun, and I found it the most useful.  Note that
the latest known version was 0.94: don't worry, it doesn't behave like a
beta.


> - FTP (Fetch)

Anarchie, whose only failing is that it can't upload to Freeserve
websites (does anyone know why yet?).

real-address-in-sig@flur.bltigibbet (Rebecca and Rowland) wrote:

>http://www.snafu.de/~stk/macsoup/  

Ta.

Ben

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thebeast@nospam.demon.co.uk (Steve Rogers) wrote:

>> - Web browser (Netscape Communicator)

>Internet Explorer 4.5

Ugh! I *hate* IE. I agree that M$ gets some things write, and Office98 is
superb, but I'll take NC over IE any day.

>> - IRC (Ircle 3.something)

>Homer is by far the most fun, and I found it the most useful.  Note that
>the latest known version was 0.94: don't worry, it doesn't behave like a
>beta.

Ah, I used to have that but found Ircle more powerful.

Ben

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Paul Womar <{$PW$}@pwomar.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> I like it because you can have your favourite bookmarks as buttons at
> the top of the window and I can use control/command click to open a page
> in a new window, which is right click on my mouse.

You can also do the command-click thing in Netscape 4.5.

One thing that bugs me; dropping links onto a window worked as expected
in IE4; 4.5 mirrors the Netscape behaviour, where dropping a graphic
link opens not the link, but the graphic. Really annoying.

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Jonathan Sanderson <jonathan@quern.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Paul Womar <{$PW$}@pwomar.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > I like it because you can have your favourite bookmarks as buttons at
> > the top of the window and I can use control/command click to open a page
> > in a new window, which is right click on my mouse.
> 
> You can also do the command-click thing in Netscape 4.5.

That's what I was talking about.
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