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Help! - problem installing Colour StyleWriter 1500 driver on Sys 7.1
#520
Author: John
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 00:00
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I was using my LCIII with a StyleWriter II printer, then purchased a
second hand StyleWriter 1200 printer, but with no software.  From Apple�s
Technical Information Library I found that the recommended  driver to use
was a Colour StyleWriter 1500 driver.

The only one I could find on Apple�s ftp site was in the American English
section.

I have just installed this on my LCIII, still using System 7.1, and find
that I can now drag files to the desktop icon which print O.K. (which I
did not expect - only wanting to use the SW1200 in place of my SW II).  

The problem, however, is that the installer has replaced my 7.1 System
Software v B-7.1 Finder with a Color SW 1500 v 2.2.1 Finder.  This has
renamed my Wastebasket as Trash and may have made other Americanised
changes.

I backed up my System folder before doing this, but, after landing myself
with this problem I thought I�d better ask for advice before trying to put
matters right.

Can anyone please advise:

1. What else will have been Americanised?

2.  If I use my StyleWriter II installer  will this put matters back as
they were (ie overwriting a later Finder version?) 

3.  If not, which files in my System Folder do I need to replace from my
backup to get back to square one or do I need to re-install System 7.1 - I
do not wish to upgrade to 7.5?

4.  How should I have proceded to enable me to use the SW 1200 Printer
with System 7.1?

Many thanks, 

John.

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Re: Help! - problem installing Colour StyleWriter 1500 driver on Sys 7.1
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Author: Rebecca and Rowland
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 00:00
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John <john@mabuhay.demoZn.co.Zuk> wrote:

> I was using my LCIII with a StyleWriter II printer, then purchased a
> second hand StyleWriter 1200 printer, but with no software.  From Apple's
> Technical Information Library I found that the recommended  driver to use
> was a Colour StyleWriter 1500 driver.
> 
> The only one I could find on Apple's ftp site was in the American English
> section.
> 
> I have just installed this on my LCIII, still using System 7.1, and find
> that I can now drag files to the desktop icon which print O.K. (which I
> did not expect - only wanting to use the SW1200 in place of my SW II).
> 
> The problem, however, is that the installer has replaced my 7.1 System
> Software v B-7.1 Finder with a Color SW 1500 v 2.2.1 Finder.  This has
> renamed my Wastebasket as Trash and may have made other Americanised
> changes.

Just installing a printer driver *shouldn't* have done this....  Someone
at Apple needs shooting.

> I backed up my System folder before doing this, but, after landing myself
> with this problem I thought I'd better ask for advice before trying to put
> matters right.
> 
> Can anyone please advise:
> 
> 1. What else will have been Americanised?

Dunno.

> 2.  If I use my StyleWriter II installer  will this put matters back as
> they were (ie overwriting a later Finder version?) 

Highly unlikely - God knows what a printer driver installer was doing
replacing your Finder.

> 3.  If not, which files in my System Folder do I need to replace from my
> backup to get back to square one or do I need to re-install System 7.1 - I
> do not wish to upgrade to 7.5?

You should be okay just replacing the Finder with your original one.  If
I were you, I'd do a clean re-install of the OS, keeping hold of the
appropriate Chooser extension for your new printer, so you can install
it manually when everything's back as it should be.

> 4.  How should I have proceded to enable me to use the SW 1200 Printer
> with System 7.1?

Dunno.  How about asking on uk.comp.sys.mac?

btw, I went from System 7.1 to 7.6 on my Performa 475 (20MB RAM, 1GB
HDD, and RAM Doubler) and the speed and reliability improvement was
wonderful, not to mention the drag-and-drop Finder, AppleScript, and so
on.  The down side is a System Folder that took nearly 40MB disc space
and increased RAM use by the System itself (at least 4MB, often up to
7MB with all the bells and whistles in place).

Rowland.

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Re: Help! - problem installing Colour StyleWriter 1500 driver on Sys 7.1
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Author: John
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 00:00
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Thanks for the comments below - however, after a restart, the system would
not load and moved to an external disk. On trying to open the suitcase it
showed a -39 error  - musn't have liked the newer Finder.

 I then replaced the whole System file,but to no effect - then used the
Remove option in the ColorSW 1500 installer,again to no effect on the
Finder - as you'd expect.

The startup process then stopped moving to the external disc by itself,  -
I just got a flashing "Welcome to Mac" box on top of my StartUp
screen, and I had to restart again holding down command-shift-option-delete
to force it to move on.

I eventually saw the obvious - it was the StartUp picture that was
damaged, preventing the System loading. I've now replaced it and things
are back to normal - but I still need a driver for the SW 1200! - see
below.


In article <1dj0fl4.2svmum1gjh5ugN@p60.nas1.is4.u-net.net>,
real-address-in-sig@flur.bltigibbet (Rebecca and Rowland) wrote:

> You should be okay just replacing the Finder with your original one.  If
> I were you, I'd do a clean re-install of the OS, keeping hold of the
> appropriate Chooser extension for your new printer, so you can install
> it manually when everything's back as it should be.

Tried this - it used US page sizes, and when I chose Page Setup on the
Desktop, it forced the Finder to quit. Selecting the Chooser on the Apple
menu caused an error type 3 and trying to open it a -97 and forced a
restart. Worth a try, though.

 
> > 4.  How should I have proceded to enable me to use the SW 1200 Printer
> > with System 7.1?
> 
> Dunno.  How about asking on uk.comp.sys.mac?

Will do when I've caught up with some sleep! Sorry if this was off-topic.

> btw, I went from System 7.1 to 7.6 on my Performa 475 (20MB RAM, 1GB
> HDD, and RAM Doubler) and the speed and reliability improvement was
> wonderful, not to mention the drag-and-drop Finder, AppleScript, and so
> on.  The down side is a System Folder that took nearly 40MB disc space
> and increased RAM use by the System itself (at least 4MB, often up to
> 7MB with all the bells and whistles in place).

May do this eventually, but I need to investigate possible conflicts with
the driver for my external hard disc first (MacPeak RapidTrack 1.5.1) - I
seem to remember some ads offering System 7.6 with a free upgrade to 8.0
(which I could use on my PowerBook), but cannot find them now - anyone
know of such?


Thanks,


John

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Re: Help! - problem installing Colour StyleWriter 1500 driver on Sys 7.1
#523
Author: Peter Ceresole
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 00:00
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In article <john-2511980048330001@mabuhay.demon.co.uk>,
john@mabuhay.demoZn.co.Zuk (John) wrote:

>> Dunno.  How about asking on uk.comp.sys.mac?
>
>Will do when I've caught up with some sleep! Sorry if this was off-topic.

Don't worry- it's not off topic at all, it's just that uk.comp.sys.mac has
a lot more people posting in it so you might get a fuller reply.

-- 
Peter
Re: Help! - problem installing Colour StyleWriter 1500 driver on Sys 7.1
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Author: Vernon Quaintance
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 00:00
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Peter Ceresole <peter@cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <john-2511980048330001@mabuhay.demon.co.uk>,
> john@mabuhay.demoZn.co.Zuk (John) wrote:
> 
> >> Dunno.  How about asking on uk.comp.sys.mac?
> >
> >Will do when I've caught up with some sleep! Sorry if this was off-topic.
> 
> Don't worry- it's not off topic at all, it's just that uk.comp.sys.mac has
> a lot more people posting in it so you might get a fuller reply.

The StyleWriter 1200 and Colour StyleWriter 1500 drivers have been part
of the standard UK MacOS distribution at least since 7.5 if not earlier.

I can email them to the original requester if he writes direct to me
(the original news article is no longer available to me).
-- 
Vernon Quaintance

vernon@dircon.co.uk
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