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Steve Rogers <thebeast@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:

[snip]
> BTW, is it in order for me to post all my Mac technical posts to both
> these newsgroups or is there some rule I haven't grasped about which is
> which?

The charter for uk.comp.sys.mac (posted to uk.comp.sys.mac every week -
there should be a copy on your news server now) has the definitive word
on the subject:

    Cross-posting to or from the comp.sys.mac hierarchy is unwelcome,
    unless directing a post to or from uk.comp.sys.mac and the
    comp.sys.mac hierarchy with follow-ups set accordingly.

    Moderate cross-posting with good reason between uk.comp.sys.mac
    and other UK and Mac specific newsgroups is acceptable.
    `Moderate' should be taken to mean `not more than one or two
    other newsgroups'.

Rowland.

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Steve Rogers <thebeast@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> And why does copying with Speed Doubler sometimes force the Finder to
> quit?

What version are you using?  I used to see this but it's fine with
8.1.1.
 
> BTW, is it in order for me to post all my Mac technical posts to both
> these newsgroups or is there some rule I haven't grasped about which is
> which?

No, I was thinking about proposing for demon.tech.mac to be removed, it
seems to serve no useful purpose now that uk.comp.sys.mac exists, it
only fragments the readership IMHO.
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Paul Womar <{$PW$}@pwomar.demon.co.uk> wrote:

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> No, I was thinking about proposing for demon.tech.mac to be removed, it
> seems to serve no useful purpose now that uk.comp.sys.mac exists, it
> only fragments the readership IMHO.

Hmm...  Maybe, but... Is there really no need for demon.tech.mac?

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Rebecca and Rowland <real-address-in-sig@flur.bltigibbet> wrote:

> The charter for uk.comp.sys.mac (posted to uk.comp.sys.mac every week -
> there should be a copy on your news server now)

Oh my grod, I've stopped reading newsgroup charters.  The Web has messed
up my 7-bit ASCII processor.  Sorry, world, I'll try to do better.

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Paul Womar <{$PW$}@pwomar.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> What version are you using?  I used to see this but it's fine with
> 8.1.1.

There's a fix?  Thanks, I'd missed that one.

> No, I was thinking about proposing for demon.tech.mac to be removed, it
> seems to serve no useful purpose now that uk.comp.sys.mac exists, it
> only fragments the readership IMHO.

I feel as if uk.comp.sys.mac is exactly the same group but bigger.
Would anyone object to deleting demon.tech.mac?

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Steve Rogers <thebeast@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> I feel as if uk.comp.sys.mac is exactly the same group but bigger.
> Would anyone object to deleting demon.tech.mac?
While postings to demon.tech.mac have certainly dropped off recently
there still may be a need for it particularly with regard to new users
(all those new iMac owners?). Also things are running smoothly at demon
just now, problems are few and far between but if changes are introduced
in the future and we need each others help or advice the wider,
...sys.mac, crowd might get a bit hacked off if we were to use that
(...sys.mac) group.

Regards 
 
Andy


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Steve Rogers <thebeast@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> I feel as if uk.comp.sys.mac is exactly the same group but bigger.
> Would anyone object to deleting demon.tech.mac?

Perhaps its presence reminds Demon of the Mac's existence, too...


Gwynne

Andy <andy@frasermac.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Steve Rogers <thebeast@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > I feel as if uk.comp.sys.mac is exactly the same group but bigger.
> > Would anyone object to deleting demon.tech.mac?
> While postings to demon.tech.mac have certainly dropped off recently
> there still may be a need for it particularly with regard to new users
> (all those new iMac owners?). Also things are running smoothly at demon
> just now, problems are few and far between but if changes are introduced
> in the future and we need each others help or advice

The demon.ip.support.mac newsgroup is for stuff related to Demon, the
*.tech.* groups were created to take the stuff that wasn't to do with
Demon away from the *.ip.* groups.  So basically the demon.tech.* groups
are for Demon customers who have platform specific issues which are
nothing to do with Demon!
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Steve Rogers <thebeast@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Paul Womar <{$PW$}@pwomar.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > What version are you using?  I used to see this but it's fine with
> > 8.1.1.
> 
> There's a fix?  Thanks, I'd missed that one.
> 
> > No, I was thinking about proposing for demon.tech.mac to be removed, it
> > seems to serve no useful purpose now that uk.comp.sys.mac exists, it
> > only fragments the readership IMHO.
> 
> I feel as if uk.comp.sys.mac is exactly the same group but bigger.
> Would anyone object to deleting demon.tech.mac?

Me!, my newsserver doesn't carry u.c.s.m
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Paul Womar <{$PW$}@pwomar.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> The demon.ip.support.mac newsgroup is for stuff related to Demon, the
> *.tech.* groups were created to take the stuff that wasn't to do with
> Demon away from the *.ip.* groups.  So basically the demon.tech.* groups
> are for Demon customers who have platform specific issues which are
> nothing to do with Demon!

Thankyou for your clarification and I can see your point with regards
the redundancy of "demon.tech.mac" and not the "demon.ip.support.mac" I
was obviously mistaking it for.

Regards 
 
Andy



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In article <1df74fk.m6ng12ngqug8N@frasermac.demon.co.uk>,
andy@frasermac.demon.co.uk (Andy) wrote:

>
>Steve Rogers <thebeast@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>> I feel as if uk.comp.sys.mac is exactly the same group but bigger.
>> Would anyone object to deleting demon.tech.mac?
>While postings to demon.tech.mac have certainly dropped off recently
>there still may be a need for it particularly with regard to new users
>(all those new iMac owners?). Also things are running smoothly at demon
>just now, problems are few and far between but if changes are introduced
>in the future and we need each others help or advice the wider,
>...sys.mac, crowd might get a bit hacked off if we were to use that
>(...sys.mac) group.

If it's internet-related demon.ip.support.mac is still there and
appropriate.
What subjects would be appropriate for demon.tech.mac but not
uk.comp.sys.mac or demon.ip.support.mac ?

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ric <btgsch@rmplc.co.uk> wrote:

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> Me!, my newsserver doesn't carry u.c.s.m

Why not ask your news admin to add it?

Rowland.

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