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Graham Coles wrote:
> 
> As a new mac owner, I'm trying to work out how to associate files with
> applications.  If I transfer an mpeg or .mov file from a pc the system
> doesn't know how to run it.  How can I associate these files with a
> quicktime viewer?

You should be able to launch MoviePlayer and then use OPEN in the file menu
and navigate to the file xx.mpeg.   After the first time it it should open
with a double click.   Works for me, I have QuickTime 3 etc.

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On Mon, 03 Aug 1998 00:38:07 +0100, Graham Coles
<graham@scitec.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>As a new mac owner, I'm trying to work out how to associate files with
>applications.  If I transfer an mpeg or .mov file from a pc the system
>doesn't know how to run it.  How can I associate these files with a
>quicktime viewer?

Install Quicktime 3 & turn on the extensions mapping feature. This
will map all popular PC file extensions to the correct Mac types.

Graham Coles <graham@scitec.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> As a new mac owner, I'm trying to work out how to associate files with
> applications.  If I transfer an mpeg or .mov file from a pc the system
> doesn't know how to run it.  How can I associate these files with a
> quicktime viewer?

PC Exchange, MacOs Easy Open & Internet Config are what you need.  PC
Exchane will let you associate a certain suffix with an application,
EasyOpen will search for likely programs for files that aren't
recognised and Internet Config will change the types and creators for
files that you have downloaded.  The 1st 2 should come with the MacOS,
IC is widely available, use www.download.com or similar to locate it for
you.
If that doesn't work then you can use a utility to manually change the
type and creator, I'd recommend FileBuddy.
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Graham Coles <graham@scitec.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> As a new mac owner, I'm trying to work out how to associate files with
> applications.  If I transfer an mpeg or .mov file from a pc the system
> doesn't know how to run it.  How can I associate these files with a
> quicktime viewer?

Other people have told you how to automate this process.  Here's some
details...  Macs don't do things the same way as PCs at all.  Rather
than depending on a 3 letter extension which maps a particular extension
to a single application, every Mac file has two 4-character codes
attached to it to tell the OS what type of file it is and what
application it belongs to: a creator code and a type code. Each
application also has a type code: if the file has the same creator code
as an application, that file is `associated' with that application.  The
type code says what sort of file it is: TEXT for plain text, JPEG, for
JPEG, and so on.  If you double-click on a file, the Finder looks at the
creator code and tells the matching application to open the file.  The
type code tells the application what sort of data is in the file.

There's quite a few applications that let you edit these codes directly;
QuickInfo and BunchTyper are two that I use.  You can get them from the
Umich mirror at: ftp://sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk/computing/systems/mac/umich/

btw, the newsgroup uk.comp.sys.mac is a good place to ask this sort of
thing.

Rowland.

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Graham Coles <graham@scitec.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> As a new mac owner, I'm trying to work out how to associate files with
> applications.  If I transfer an mpeg or .mov file from a pc the system
> doesn't know how to run it.  How can I associate these files with a
> quicktime viewer?
> 
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On a windows machine, the association between a file and the application
to open it is made by the file's 3 letter extension. On a Mac, it is
made by two hidden attributes associated with a file. Get yourself a
copy of resedit, resist the temptation to open files with it and use the
get file/folder info command on the file menu. You'll see that any file
has two hidden attributes, the type and creator codes. There's a list of
these on the web somewhere, and you can just enter the code you want. PC
exchange will do a similar job for you if you deal with files on PC
disks directly, and there are also drag and drop file typing utilities
available. Have a play around.

BTW, if you put a space after the two dashes in your .sig, many
newreaders will automatically remove it when replying.

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Graham Coles <graham@scitec.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> As a new mac owner, I'm trying to work out how to associate files with
> applications.  If I transfer an mpeg or .mov file from a pc the system
> doesn't know how to run it.  How can I associate these files with a
> quicktime viewer?

Having read the other replies to date, I'd like to add that the
AppleScript applet "ICtoPCExchange" would also help.

After you've installed QuickTime 3, if you run ICtoPCExchange it will
copy all the 3-letter associations in Internet Config's Helpers section
to your PC Exchange Preferences, so that you can enjoy the same level of
translation & compatibility with PC disks as you do with Internet
downloads.

If you want it, e-mail me and I'll attach a compressed copy of it (file
size = about 68K).

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Many thanks to all the replies, they have answered several other
questions I had as well.

The only one problem I seem to still have is to associate mpeg files.  I
have tried tying these up with the quicktime viewer using QuickInfo but
whereas this has worked for the .mov file extension (MooV/TVOD)
Quicktime seems to be uninterested in the mpeg (I can get it to play by
embedding the mpeg into an html doc and opening with netscape, so the
file is OK).

I have tried drag and drop on the movie player but it rejects it
outright.
Having said that, it appears to be movie player 2.5.1 / Quicktime 2.5
...
There appears to be a more recent system extension for quicktime mpeg,
maybe I just need to update to a newer version of something?

Steve Rogers wrote:
> 
> Graham Coles <graham@scitec.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > As a new mac owner, I'm trying to work out how to associate files with
> > applications.  If I transfer an mpeg or .mov file from a pc the system
> > doesn't know how to run it.  How can I associate these files with a
> > quicktime viewer?
> 
> Having read the other replies to date, I'd like to add that the
> AppleScript applet "ICtoPCExchange" would also help.
> 
> After you've installed QuickTime 3, if you run ICtoPCExchange it will
> copy all the 3-letter associations in Internet Config's Helpers section
> to your PC Exchange Preferences, so that you can enjoy the same level of
> translation & compatibility with PC disks as you do with Internet
> downloads.
> 
> If you want it, e-mail me and I'll attach a compressed copy of it (file
> size = about 68K).
> 
> --
> Steve Rogers http://www.thebeast.demon.co.uk
>     *mailto:steverogers@thebeast.demon.co.uk
> *Mail must use the above address to reach me

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Graham Coles <graham@scitec.demon.co.uk> wrote:

[snip]
> I have tried drag and drop on the movie player but it rejects it
> outright.
> Having said that, it appears to be movie player 2.5.1 / Quicktime 2.5
> ...
> There appears to be a more recent system extension for quicktime mpeg,
> maybe I just need to update to a newer version of something?

(btw, you should have...
[snip]ped
all the stuff that was no longer relevant)

There's two likely causes: one is that the file doesn't have the right
type/creator code; and the other is that the version of QT that you have
doesn't play that version of MPEG.

Given that you can play this file from within an HTML file, I suspect
that QT 2.5 can do the job.

You could try changing the type of the file to:

MPG 

(that's MPG<space>)

I looked this up by opening the Movie Player with ResEdit (available
from someone on Apple's Web site and yes, 2.1.3 is the most recent
version) and looking inside the BNDL resource which has a list of all
the file types that the application knows about (or will admit to,
anyeay).

Rowland.


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Graham Coles <graham@scitec.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> The only one problem I seem to still have is to associate mpeg files.

Do you have the QuickTime MPEG extension in your Extensions folder?

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