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On Sat, 15 Aug 1998 13:07:35 +0100, Steve Firth wrote
(in message <1ddt0dq.1a7boac1d5f1ffN@[192.168.0.1]>):
> It sounds like a flat battery problem. 
i disagree: the LCII, unlike later Macs, starts up fine with a flat battery 
(except it defaults to black and white and a default date)- my sister has been 
using my old LCII for a year now with a flat battery, only needing to do a soft 
reboot to restore these settings.
it is much more likely that the hard disk has become corrupt- reformat it with 
disk tools, reinstall software, and start again (you could try Norton 
Utilities, but at this stage, the disc is probably too far gone to save)

If it runs fine from a disk, it can't be the battery.

On the other hand, the symptoms you describe suggest the battery:) If
the battery is OK and the HD is the problem, I guess it should get as
far as a floppy icon with flashing question mark. Low battery problems
can generate all sorts of strange symptons, so who knows? I'd suggest
putting in a new battery as a starter - it may not work but it is cheap
and easy (don't go to an Apple dealer, it is 2 minutes to change the
battery. The easiest source of batteries is Boots - one of the camera
batteries is the correct size and about the right voltage).

My next guess would be a problem with the HD itself rather than the
connection to the HD.

Try Disk First Aid - which should be somewhere on your original
floppies.

You could then try something like Norton Utilities, which may find the
HD - or not.

Although, if HDSetup can't find the drive, it does rather sound as
though the HD has gone to the scrapyard. I think I'd try to find a used
external HD and work with that - easier than finding one to fit inside.
Remember, you need an Apple Mac driver that will work with the HD.

Regards,
-- 
Larry Stoter
17, Rocks Park Road, Uckfield, E. Sussex, TN22 2AT, UK
email: LPS@teknesis.demon.co.uk
Phone/Fax: +44 (0)1825 767967

In article <19980816083636226091@teknesis.demon.co.uk>,
LPS@teknesis.demon.co.uk (Larry Stoter) wrote:

> If it runs fine from a disk, it can't be the battery.

> On the other hand, the symptoms you describe suggest the battery:)

the battery was replaced less than one year ago


> My next guess would be a problem with the HD itself rather than the
> connection to the HD.
> Try Disk First Aid - which should be somewhere on your original
> floppies.

Already tried that and it can't find the drive

> You could then try something like Norton Utilities, which may find the
> HD - or not.

When Norton was asked to search the SCSI chain the machine defaulted to
the NORTON message 'It is now safe to turn off your machine'.

> Although, if HDSetup can't find the drive, it does rather sound as
> though the HD has gone to the scrapyard. I think I'd try to find a used
> external HD and work with that - easier than finding one to fit inside.
> Remember, you need an Apple Mac driver that will work with the HD.

This is what I had thought was the problem. Thanks for confirmation.

Many thanks

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Ian McKnight                                         Ian@ianmck.demon.co.uk

May your right hand always be stretched out in friendship and never in want