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Re: Motorola 3400 problems, could this be the answer?

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From: Chris Lawrence
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 00:00
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On Sat, 18 Oct 1997, Peter McDermott wrote:

>>So it was a pointless example of no relevance to the problem.
>
>Well, you could choose to see it that way, but if you did, you'll
>be doomed to make Fuckwit of the Month eventually. 

Why?  My opinion differs to your so you suggest that is fuckwit
behaviour?  It never struck me that you would use it as a lever to try
and support your own opinions.

>>So it could be of relevance - if so then it implies that the 3400 is out
>>of spec, if not then it is simply not relevant, nothing more.  
>
>The relevance was in rebutting the flawed logic that people were
>using in this thread - ie, IF Demon have changed something AND
>my modem worked prior to this change THEN the fault must lie with
>Demon. The example shows the flaw in such logic.

You miss the point, Peter.  Yes, the logic of the above is flawed.
However, it relies on the user's modem being out of spec.  If a user has
an out of spec modem then it may work before Demon change and then it
may not work after Demon change and it won't be Demon's fault.  But if
the modem is in spec then this example is moot and of no relevance,
which is my point.  See the original examples and notice how the modem
is shown as out of spec by its position on the graph or the number of
"somethings" it has.

My feeling is that this example has been used to 'hide' behind (hide is
too strong a word) when in fact is does demonstrate a valid point but
bears no relevance to the problem.

> As I say, you
>might not see that as relevant, but your failure to do so will
>almost certainly condemn you to continue to thinking along these
>lines in the future.

As someone who is well aware of electronic instrumentation, specs and
tolerances of equipment and the comms problems they can cause, I assure
you that my thinking is far from what you suggest above.

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From: Chris Lawrence <news@spacetime.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Motorola 3400 problems, could this be the answer?
Date: 1997/10/18
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